Not everyone here plays 25mm/28mm games. Some play more than one scale. I thought I'd post a few conversions on how to scale WWG models

I'm getting all my scales from TMP

If my math is anyway off then let me know. If there is a specific game then let me know the scale and I will add it to the list.

Due to the fact that there is no standard scale for war games you may see more than one millimeter scale. It depends on the individual manufactures. I will add as many as is brought to my attention. If you can add the company or name of the game so people can target the correct scale they need.

1.5" sets or Clix: For most of the WizKids sets. Scale up 150%

1/72 or 22.4mm: These are your Airfix or Monogram figures. Scale down 88.88%

1/76 or Railroad OO: Scale down 84.21%

20mm or 1/80.5: Popular with Historic War Gaming. Scale down 79.5%

1/87 or Railroad HO: Scale down 73.56%

15mm or 1/100: Another scale popular with Historic War Gaming. Scale down 64%

15mm or 1/107: Another scale popular with Historic War Gaming. Scale down 59.81%

1/144 or 11.2mm: Aircraft kits and DP9 Heavy Gear Game. Scale down 44.44%

10mm, Railroad N Scale, 1/161: Mechwarrior Age of Destruction, Historic and Sci-Fi mass scale War Games. Scale down 39.75%

Railroad Z Scale, 1/220, 7mm: Scale down 29.09%

6mm or 1/268: Battletech, GW's Epic, very popular with Historic, fantasy and Sci-Fi mass combat war games. Scale down 23.88%

6mm or 1/285: Scale down 22.45%

6mm or 1/300: Scale down 21.33%

1" only sets, to be used for 1.5" gaming: Scale up 150%.

Obvious, yes, but it's omission was glaring at me.

Often 6mm is 1/285 or 1/300 and 15mm is 1/100, all depending on the manufacturer.

I was tempted to run a different thread linking back to this one just o keep it clean (reading wise) but I though bugger it.


Turning Mayhem into 10mm you reduce it to 39.75%, right? Now I know how to do that in Acrobat but I'm unsure how to go abouts this in PShop. I know how to transform but that is very freehand and no real set numbers attached to it. Is there a tool or a menu option I need to find in order to scale a layer or the canvas to a desired result?


The reason I ask is if I do it in Acrobat there is a HUGE amount of paper waste plus I could pump out a number of whole buildings if I can arrange them on the one page.


Lord Abaddon of Wormwood

In photoshop when you choose to transform there should be a bar near the top of the screen that allows you to choose dimensions or percentage.

Sacretis

Sacretis thanks for that Man! I knew it was somewhere but I use it so infrequently that I keep forgetting.

I'm a little honored that you had time to reply, all with the Girl and the Beemer


Big thank you again. BTW at 10mm you can get a 6 leveled building upon one sheet - that's all four sides Hollywood Flat.



Lord Abaddon of Wormwood

Heh, I mostly replied because I felt bad about being so absent...

Sacretis

In Photoshop I hit Ctrl+T then on the top bar make sure you press the link or chain symbol so it scales evenly



The great thing about photoshop is that you can copy multiple layers in one page to use up the rest of that space. If any of you GIMP users could post how to scale that would be great.

Acrobat Pro



Acrobat Pro has a Tile Scale area that you can use.

In GIMP there is a scaling tool.


Also there is an image scaling option under the image tab. This 2nd method is interesting because you can alter the resolution as well as the dimensions.


GIMP also has the chained option and it does allow multiple layers. But i prefer to just cut the parts I want and paste them into an image.

speaking of scale, where's the thread that explains how to import and export between acrobat and photoshop correctly? I'm in 300dpi and having trouble getting the scale right on export to pdf.

edit: nevermind, I found it after some trouble with the search engine.

http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1750&highlight=scale+photoshop+pdf

Maybe these two threads could be merged?

Looking at this game Uncharted Seas.




So what would I be reducing Hinterland and other setsto create cliff facing plus islands.



Lord Abaddon of Wormwood

Would you need to reduce the rock texture to make cliffs? Don't they need only look good? Are you trying to make a specific size island?

Here's a nice tool
http://www.fortressfigures.com/appendixes/scalecalc.html

I'm very new to this and use 20mm figures so I reckon I need to scale down to 79.5% - using adobe acrobat, can I do that and, if so, how? I can see how to do it with photoshop, but that's not a software I have. Any help and advice much appreciated.

Regards,

Richard

I have 1/72 Caesar miniatures (which measure out to about 23mm) as well as Zombies! miniatures and I had to scale down to 71% to make it look right. I did it by adjusting printer settings as I printed the PDFs from Acrobat rather than edit any files.

It was annoying to figure out the scale, since I don't think viewing things at 100% size is actually accurate to real life (at least on my monitor, I don't know) so I had to do trial and error with print outs. If I may, WWG, a file with an outline of a human sized for their terrain at every scale at, say 5% increments, would be handy for things like this.

The smaller size makes some parts a bit fiddly to put together but I think I prefer the size over the original once it the pieces are finished. They take up less space, let's you either fit more on your table or fit your board onto less space. Overall I'm happy with how things look. Although I can't seem to get small (3-inch) walls to fit in 3-inch rooms or on the 3-inch side of the hallway, though they work in the 6-inch rooms fine. It's like the posts on the hallway and small room floors are too close together.

1/1200 scale would mean what kind of rescaling...?

And, it may seem obvious, but this 1" scale of WWG stuff is 1/64, yes?

what does WWG stand for, that's really confusing now, kindly let me know.

WorldWorksGames, the name of the company.

1" Scale means 1" = 5 feet, or 1:60
If you're using 1/64 figures or accessories that wouldn't much too noticeable a difference.

Many thanks to all the posters in this thread, especially n scale and using gimp/acrobat scaling.

It's been really helpful.

If I scale at 25%, will that turn 1" squares into 1/4" squares as on a standard graph paper sheet?

Thanks!

That should do it exactly.

Thank you, Sir!

with all the wonderful old West stuff coming out I decided to plunge in but I want to build it in 15 mm scale instead of 25 mm scale does anyone know what you set the printer scaling at to accomplish this?

Divide what you want: 15 mm
with what you have: 25 mm
to get the percent to print.

15/25 = 0.60 so print the 25mm at 60% to get 15mm.

A good check is to see what the result is. A 15mm object is smaller than a 25 mm object so printing a 25 mm object at 60% of its size works out to give the smaller 15 mm object.

Works the same for scales too.
If you have a 1:72 scale object and you want a 1:33 scale object
divide what you have: 72
with what you want: 33

72/33 = 2.18 so print the 1:72 scale object at 218% to get a 1:33 scale object.

In this case and in all cases with scale ratios the larger number is the smaller object so a 1:72 scale object is smaller than it would be as a 1:33 scale object. You would have to check that the larger parts will fit on the paper your printer is capable of using. If not then you will have to cut and paste the parts to numerous pages and in some cases cut a piece into multiple parts and paste onto more than one page.

The main thing to remember is to
Divide what you have with what you want.

thanks good info