I'd like what we call in the UK a humped back bridge (google it - the best image I found was a model so I can't link!).
And definitely +1 on what Zenguy wrote! MProteau - you rock!
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-19-2012, 08:07 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
I'm gathering some ideas before I start hacking away at some new 3D props. I had an idea in my head of what my 3D bridge would be for, but I think I'd like to hear what others would want. As usual, this will kind of open it up to people saying "yeah - I want it all!" but it's much more helpful if you add to that "but, if I had to pick just one, this is what I'd want most..." Regarding a 3D bridge prop for HV Streets: The set contains a "bridge" wall piece, though TLX is designed for 3" and 6" tiles. I have several options here: 1) Design something totally custom. If you have any reference photos you might want me to draw inspiration from, please let me know. 2) Use the existing walls as a base, but build a fixed 3D structure (kinda like what I did with the garden waterfall piece). If I did this, I will experiment with optionally leaving the TLX hooks on the ends so it could still slip into posts, but also allow for a totally free-standing model. Any preference to sizes? I'm thinking 1" and 1.5" wide walkways using the HV Streets bricks, in 3" and 6" lengths. As a fixed structure, it'd end up a solid shape - not just walls and a top. 3) Use the existing walls as a base, but use custom TLX tile sizes for the walkway. I can leverage the catwalks design from the Lair of the Dragon God, and you can plug in standard railing pieces. This might allow me to easily make other shaped pieces, like L-shaped walkways. Maybe I'm going down the wrong path with what I was thinking the bridge would be for. As I type this, I'm imagining a much lower bridge (i.e. not based on a 2" high TLX wall) that would be used to span across a canal tile, or across a Hinterland river tile... Thoughts? I'm open to anything! |
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| Author: | Squirmydad [ 10-19-2012, 10:33 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
I was thinking Venetian canal bridges, no more than 3" wide, although I'd prefer 2" in width, but I know TLX things need to match up. That's what I'd like. |
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-19-2012, 11:15 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
It dawns on me, that I could modify if I want something small to go over rivers... What I've been sketching is a little different tho, so hopefully there will be room for more than one little bridge. @Squirmydad - I looked up pics of Venetian canal bridges - some good stuff for me to think about! Thanks for the suggestion. |
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| Author: | robby [ 10-19-2012, 02:30 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
Two things I'd love to see in a bridge: 1) High arching bridge - a venetian bridge is a good example. 2) Variable width bridge - a bridge that you can easily scale the width. I'd love to do a bridge that has buildings on it, but all the papercraft bridges that are around require some serious hackery to do it. They're all designed to be a fixed width. |
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| Author: | Talae [ 10-19-2012, 02:32 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
A way to utilize the arches in HV Streets as a bridge would be a start for this. My things is, if going bigger than the Gardens bridge, then I want it to fold flat. |
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| Author: | Zenguy [ 10-20-2012, 12:32 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
| Author: | riddles [ 10-22-2012, 12:42 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
I'd like what we call in the UK a humped back bridge (google it - the best image I found was a model so I can't link!). And definitely +1 on what Zenguy wrote! MProteau - you rock!
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-22-2012, 05:51 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
Ok. So, here's what I'm thinking of doing in the short term. I'm thinking of using the bridgewall.PDF file from the Himmelveil Streets set as a starting point (I'll try to make a 3" long version of this wall as well.) Specifically, the anti-warp walls, and I'll explain why. I want to be able to use the walls as-is. To them, I'd like to create "toppers" like those that exist in the SwiftScenics sets - kind of like a railing piece that will glue to the top of the outside of the wall (opposite the side with the anti-warp triangle). I don't know quite yet what the shape of the toppers will take, but I will probably start with something simple before I get creative. I want to spend some quality time thinking about ways to make the toppers not have to be glued onto the walls, too. I'm thinking maybe slots cut into the tops of the anti-warp top to slip them in place. It'd be pretty cool to make a modular system for this! (can you say "fold-flat covered bridges"?) Then, I'll make 1" and 2" wide floors using 1" and no-grid textures, and a 1.5" wide floor using 1.5" and no-grid textures. I'll make these 3" and 6" long. 1" seems VERY narrow, but I might as well put something together while I'm in there. Lastly, I'll make a couple 1", 1.5" and 2" TLX wall sections for HV Streets. Putting it all together, I believe what it will look like is this - four 2-way posts in which you'll slot two anti-warp bridge walls that have the toppers attached and two short wall sections on the ends (these are more structural than anything). The bridge should fit well against any TLX build (i.e. if you have a 2nd story that you want to connect - the bridge should work just fine) and if you want it free-floating, you can simply put stairs on either end. I might bash up the stairs a little so they meet nicely with the "toppers" of the walls, and I'll make sure they work in all three directions off the end of the bridge. I think this won't take long to whip up examples of (I might do untextured builds to start with...), then I can see what kind of reactions I get. |
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| Author: | greypilgrim [ 10-22-2012, 09:05 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
I for one have a planned build that requires a 12" low arch bridge, plain or decorative. [No spoilers yet!] |
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-22-2012, 09:16 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
| Author: | mproteau [ 10-22-2012, 01:06 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
Playing around in GIMP, learning how to do things like un-bend a bent piece of texture... 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In this case, I took the stone from inside the archway and "bent" it to fit my curved top piece. I grabbed bricks from a normal wall and shrunk em down. I'll add a layer of grime over it so that it will hopefully blend in better with the wall below. I'm learning how to use bump mapping now to kind of emboss/engrave some textures onto the side of the wall. I'd like to have a couple options. I'm also thinking that I might make special inserts for the posts that I intend to slot these into - to cap off the tops of the posts using something that would blend with the style of the HV Streets set (like using a smaller version of the 'streetlamp' prop might be cool. |
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-22-2012, 05:17 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
I quickly put together a test build, and discovered a little flaw in my "design"... It turns out the piece fits really nicely into the anti-warp wall (better than I had hoped!) but it's got to be 1/4" taller in order to come up over the tile piece that will rest on the wall! D'oh! Other than that, though, I really like how it goes together. I am not going to work too hard on it tonight (or tomorrow for that matter) but I think I'm on to something. Oh, and note to self... let the glue dry on the wall before inserting the "removable" topper piece... 
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| Author: | tatteredking [ 10-23-2012, 03:44 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
quick question...why not use the railings already included in Himmelveil streets, as I did? |
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| Author: | mproteau [ 10-23-2012, 06:55 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
| Author: | riddles [ 10-24-2012, 01:21 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
Bendy bridges! As tatteredking has shown, for "flat" bridges we have a work around. But we need the mproteau "magic" to make the humped back bridge we (OK I) desire!  And when you've done it for Himmelveil, reskinning it for a Hinterlands track with an old stone bridge would be perfect. Hey, a bloke can dream can't he? (especially when I have the artistic ability of a dead badger  )
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| Author: | Zenguy [ 10-24-2012, 12:00 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
My top vote would be for narrow bridges, and some tidy way to get on and off them. 
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| Author: | tatteredking [ 10-25-2012, 11:51 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help planning a 3D bridge prop |
ah, I understand now! |
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