I like the first as well...

But maybe you could go into the [Adjust Menu/Selective Color] and cool down the warm colors in the metal FL door panel. Pick the neutrals and drop out some of the yellow and magenta...add some cyan. That way it would feel more like a cool steel door...

Or maybe do the blue color adjustment as above(like your 3rd example), but go in and "fade" it back about 70%. Then just add some frosty edges to it.
Something like this...


Cool Stuff Aleph.

-Floyd

I like it! Good job. I really think I'll be doing something along these lines, regardless.

So you know, the reason i included the "what works best as Ech Base" part, though, is because the doors in Echo Base look like this:

Yeah and well the ice is more greyish in most scenes (with the exception of a couple of shots of the hangar bay). Where the shadows cast a bit more blue.
But hey you can embelish. Besides FL doors look way cooler.

If worse comes to worse, simply make the door images greyscale and do a real high contrast and drop most of the grey out. Then you will have a white door w/some dark detail lines. Then cool it down a little with some blue.

-Floyd

The first one definitely.

You wouldn't go with Fl0ydski's "cold steel" door?

I'm liking it a lot.

Lets call this a part of the WorldWorks "giving back" series. I love the energy you guys bring forward with creative kitbashing. I've retooled some of the texturing on the door for you guys. Wish I had time to do more (A full ice cave is still on my list of to-do's). Enjoy

http://www.worldworksgames.com/flsnowbash.zip

I like the second one, personally.



Denny - those doors look really cool.

Yes...that why all we love you...give more to me...!!!
But this will last nothing...we'll begin complaining for the new release

Thanks...and as a prove of loyalty to you as soon as FL:expansion is in rpgshop i will wrap it with caves...

You could snag the mods any of us has posted here and use them for your experiments, or download any of the photos posted on the CaveWorks page and use those. No one has posted any original textures, only modified textures of sets they own - ebbtide and me included. But since I always want to be helpful and know starting from scratch will work best for you, here's your one inch section of wall to play with (see my avatar, I'll leave it up a while).

WOW this really shows that worldworksgames really listens and cares for ist customers.

Thank you very very much denny.

Personally i am a strictly fantasy setting addict but with this kind of tweaks and the coming out of retrofit i can't resist myself anymore not to buy the scifi series to!!

And even if i buy all the sets it stil is a bargain! I stil can nbot believe your prices denny! thanks again for all the good work

Weird, I realize that it is for a Star Wars type game, but my mind wandered off in the direction of X-Files/Call of Cthulhu...

The Auld Grump,Cthulhu F'tgagn...

Weird, I realize that it is for a Star Wars type game, but my mind wandered off in the direction of X-Files/Call of Cthulhu...

The Auld Grump,Cthulhu F'tgagn...

Why not a pulp style game...1930 a cavern with a complex of Nazi scientist...clones of soldiers altered geneticaly...prisions with the bad experiments...
Ideas...

This is why WorldWorks is so impressive and gets my support. Denny, you ROCK!!!!

Excellent, Denny! That looks even better than what I was imagining.

Thanks a bunch for supporting your user community - it's much appreciated!

Yeah, it makes me think of an ancient alien shipwreck found in a glacier.

Hmm... get a listtle plastic blisterpack, wash the inside with some white paint plus a dab of blue, put some green monster mini inside, and voila: alien trapped in a block of ice! (and thawing, of course...)

Denny! That is freakin' great! The snowy texture is perfect! I'll have to do this up tonight...

And I LOVE the "Officail Kitbash" logo! Can't wait to see more of it!


heh. Like AVP?

Okay, here's all the three original "icy" mods, with the fourth being Denny's "snowy" mod. The fifth is Fl0ydski's "cold steel" door.


I'm seriously torn between Denny's and Fl0ydski's!

Oh, but the "frosted" effect on Denny's version look sso much better in the full-scale version! IMHO, of course...

Heck yeah! It looks great! I printed out some ice caves, and Denny's snow door & doorframe.

I'll build 'em tonight and try to get the pics up.

As an aside, since I recently changed printer carts, I had a part-dead cart lying around. The only color empty is yellow! So, I printed the ice caves with that cart, saving some ink in the process.

While I was at it, I decided to print a sheet of the ice caves on transparency. Word to the wise: Pay attention to which side's up! At 50 cents/sheet, that was an expensive oops.

But, the correct one looks pretty neat. I'll play around with it, and see what comes up.

I played with 'em both!

The camera's batteries died before I could get a decent shot of the ice caves, though. They're charging now, so I'll post pics tomorrow.

I did, however, get some shots of the transparency ice caves! Thanks to Qwijoma for suggesting this! It looks really neat, but it's an incredible pain in the butt.

You see, it's practically impossible to glue transparencies to transparencies. (At least, not with super glue or UHU) So, I cut out a narrow "U" shaped cardstock border to slip in between the sandwich fold. I did 1/8", because anything narrower tended to curl.

I used binder clips to hold everything perfectly in place, and removed one clip. In that space, I took my Zap-A-Gap CA+ and put light drops up against the edge, so the glue seeped into the crack, bonding the cardstock to both sheets of transparency paper.

Once dry (I gave it about 30 sec to 1 min, depending on how much glue went in), I removed another binder clip on the other side of the wall. Spacing it out like that allowed for even more drying time before I stressed that join.

Once everything was solid, I cut out the cave openings, cutting that section of the "U" frame out, too.

Here's the final wall (the minis were painted by my wife!).



This one shows the textures of the wall a bit better. The "double vision" effect is actually pretty cool, and gives a sense of depth to the wall.



Here's a closeup, to show the "U" frame in better detail.

Wonderfull...I have to try this...any recomendation in the transparency...Is that something I have to try with my Canon Pixma 4000...I would to use it with the FL...but I like the look of it...but maybe for something less big (a stalactite or stalacmite...not a full wall) .
good work

Dang! Looks great, but it does sound like we need a better glue solution for transparencies.

I suggested in the ice cave thread to lightly dust the back of the transparency with white spray paint for a more snowy/semi-opaque look. Seems like that might be a good idea to make the textures stand out better as well.

Looking forward to seeing the rest of the pictures!

Amazing as always, Aleph13. Do you think hot glue would work to hold the transparencies together?

I'm guessing hot glue might be too visible. Then again, you really only need a couple small dabs on each corner to hold the two sides together.

Hmmm... has anyone tried spray-on glue? Almost invisible. Nice even coverage on the entire surface. Just don't know if it would melt the transparency, and/or stick well...

Actually, while I was at work today, I thought of Mags' obsession with double-stick tape. I wonder how well this would hold in the long term?

As for hot glue, I must say that I'm far too spastic for accuracy with the stuff. I'd love to see someone else try it, though, even on just a couple scrap pieces of transparency. My only concern would be that it might be too hot and melt the plastic.

I like the idea of some light white dusting behind the sheets. Shouldn't go too heavy, though (the transparencies look identical to cardstock with a solid white background).

Batteries are charged, and here's some shots!

First, the ICWorks (get it? ) on cardstock. This set would be super cool as a full-size winter scene!





Next up: the long-awaited and debated (and hopefully celebrated) DOOR! The top pic is the original FL door. The second pic is with Denny's snow door & frame kitbash.

Oh, and I've already 'bashed the Photoshop file to include both sides of the door (the back only needed to be flipped vertically to match), and a set of doors that are snowy on both sides!





Denny's kitbash of Paul's FL door & frame are the perfect touch to the ice caves!

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I also wanted to talk a bit more about what inspired me to do the transparency version of ICWorks. It doesn's have to be the whole cave system. I was planning on doing a single wall (or room), and having a room beyond the icy wall that the PCs could see into.

This is a pic of a mini as seen through a single sheet of the wall section (no sandwiching):



Here's a shot of the same mini as seen through a loosely sandwiched wall section:



Overall, which do you think looks better? I'm still partial to the sandwiched look, as it makes what's behind it look a bit more obscured and mysterious.

Looking great, Aleph!

I'd vote for the double thickness for your Wall of Ice. Looks much cooler (heh... cooler )

Hmm... too bad CaveWorks doen't have a stone bridge. A semitransparent ice bridge (with cracks at strategic locations) would make for a nice addition to your ice caves.

Ohh here's an idea... in photoshop, take a 1 or 2-tile wide strip of icy floor tiles, and attach your icicles to both sides. Try to blend the transition between floor and icicles somewhat. Print on transparency and cut out. Bend (but do not sharply crease & fold) the icicles so they're almost at 90 degree with respect to the top of the bridge. Bow the path itself lengthwise, so figures have a slight tendency to slide off the bridge.

A bit straight for a natural bridge, but it'll do. You may need to use double-thickness transparencies to get something strong enough to stand some metal figs on it. You could also make the bridge arch slightly, but that would take more kitbashing in photoshop (need to keep those icicles pointing straight down!)

I like the bridge idea.

You could just do the CW bridge frozen (icy or snowy), like the earlier picture in this thread, but I think a "Chunky" bridge (about 1/2" to 1" thick) would look the best. You could use the CW floor tiles, and make one really easy, with sloped ends to prop on either side of the chasm.

As for the bending, I have some minis that I would be seriously peeved to see fall. I think I'll skip that one!

Something kinda like this (shamelessly borrowing from some of the pics you've posted):




Some more brainstorming... to get a sturdier "natural" bridge, take a strip of looong stalactites (at least 3" long), mirror it and put a blank strip the size of the top of the bridge in between. Glue the stalactite strips back to back, so the whole thing is bent into a teardrop shape lengthwise. Now glue the top of the bridge to the top of the teardrop shape.

Something kinda like this... the red part is a cross section of the simple ice bridge I proposed above. The blue part is the reinforcement, with a third row of long stalactites hanging down the middle: