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/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() WorldWorksGames • View topic - More Chunky Mega-Bashes
Piston Joined: 09-22-2004, 11:10 AM Posts: 409 Location: Over the Rainbow
I would like to see chunky gothic submitted. I still have a massive mage knight collection....and even without it, I prefer the look of the chunky stuff for dungeon crawls.
As for a chunky caveworks. That would be an impressive feat. I tried hashing that out on sketchup and the geometries gave me a headache. It has so many organic shapes that it is a very difficult proposition to bash this one to a chunky format.
"The stone that the builder refused, will become the head cornerstone."
Commander Joined: 07-19-2003, 03:24 AM Posts: 3425 Location: Sydney
I would assume that anyone submitting a kitbash would do it for the love of the hobby plus the execise of doing it = more of a I have done it and here it is! kinda thing.
I really would want to see the Mayhem MegaBashes that DR999 submitted after making his huge clixs based table. From what I understand there is all the bashes in Clix, grided and ungrided version. It is this type of megabash that will add so much flavor to Mayhem.
As for the kB not being the bread and butter - I would love to know the stats on kb verse Main sets. Kitbashes are not the cheapest things around for products that have been remastered to by an unpaid workforce. I'm not promoting the fact that KBers should get something fiscal out of it (see above) but at the same time its (the bashes) has turned into a nice cash cow - a subset of products that really don't need a huge time or effort to be applied by the company.
What am I getting at - Kitbashes are great, I don't think that anyone submitting them should get money out of them - staff or otherwise (tell me that staff don't get cash for their submits ). The point of them is to have a safe format that people can exchange their visions of a certain set to the general public. If they get widely accepted then GREAT and kudos to that person - they have just enriched the cardstock world just that bit more.
As for mega basher - do they have instrustions, instructions that have bee custom build for that subset? If so then that set should be $15 (standard set cost) and the split of cash should be the same as what a normal set is by the designer and the company. Why? Becasue the new set is a whole unit unto itself. Also this will keep the standard alive - if a megabash is not upto par - it should never leave the cutting room floor or it should be broken down into elements that can be shifted into Kitbashes. By not paying for someone time and effort on a MegaBash - a Mega bash that is choked full of goodness that goes above and beyond the original - so me smacks of theft. Yes you are paying for the hosting and download of it but at the same time we are not file sharing it. The person in question should get the same cut as a full set. Is this not how Mini-Chunk came into being?
Sky Captian Joined: 08-03-2005, 10:45 AM Posts: 2378 Location: Seattle, WA (Ruins of Mega-City Two)
Firstly, you can't assume anything about the motivation of anyone... since this forum pulls people together from all around the world. Assumption based on your outlook may not apply to the guy living next door, let alone in a foreign country.
However, the main point to my response is to say that I think a megabash version of a set, turning it chunky, should not contain any instructions for things already covered in the main set. As I've said before, kitbashes should "recommend" a set, but should, in very large letters, say that the other set is "required". That way the initial designer still gets his portion of the money.
Also, I do agree that staff should be held to the same standards in terms of money for kitbashes. I don't know what the current situation is, but it seems only fair to treat everyone the same.
Megabashes, among other things, include full-set style instructions for all elements. it's one of the things that set them apart from a "bundle of kitbashes".
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Sky Captian Joined: 08-03-2005, 10:45 AM Posts: 2378 Location: Seattle, WA (Ruins of Mega-City Two)
But, if it contains the models, and the instructions... isn't it a full release? Mayhem Armory kinda needs Streets of Mayhem, but they both contain models and instructions, and are self contained. Does a megabash still require other sets? If not, then it really isn't a kitbash at all... it becomes a full release...
Put it this way, if I'm getting this confused about what exactly it is, or should be, you can be sure others are to, they just aren't typing as much Might be good to take a look at the way megabashes are marketed, and see how that can be improved.
Dirigible Joined: 04-05-2005, 08:59 AM Posts: 1668 Location: The Jinglepot
I really only kitbash because I wanted to see it done or needed it. It's not like I'm going out to make them just to impress anyone. Thats why I never made any other "Chunk Gothic Sewers" other than the green Thats the color I wanted to do so thats the only color I made.
If I hear someone else is going to make a kitbash that I was thinking of making I'll just wait until they do it and purchase it. I have tons of other stuff on the fire.
I'm even working on a chunky Dungeon Linx. Bit difficult due to the lack of some of the wall textures
So IF I submitted one and IF it was accepted I really don't expect any compensation for something thats just sitting in my hard drive anyways.
A true reward would be seeing someone else using it and posting a few pics
As for Chunky Cave works its not the geometry or the retexturing that is a pain it is the extra effort you have to take while building it. It takes twice as long to build a piece.
Sprocket Joined: 10-05-2007, 09:51 AM Posts: 47 Location: Ontario, Canada
I've no idea of the technical costs behind this, but couldn't this all be solved by only allowing those who have purchased the base model set to buy/download the corresponding kitbashes?
You'd end up with a model set "linked" or registered to your account.
This would also eliminate the problem of a kitbash duplicating parts of the base model set.
Sprocket Joined: 12-03-2005, 07:04 AM Posts: 44 Location: Seattle
Thanks for the info Aleph13. Sounds good except for one thing... I am wondering if this concept will either stop people from buying the individual bashes in lieu of waiting for the megas or the opposite - not buying the megas because they don't want to buy models they already paid for with the individual bashes. Either way, I can envision sales being skewed to some degree.
Side note: Some people (myself included) may not resent the double payment as it supports WWG but I think some may. I would suggest perhaps some notice advance notice of when individual bashes are going to get locked into megas to allow people who have accumulated a significant number of bashes the option of getting the individuals or waiting for the mega. Just a thought.
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