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Author:  Akmor [ 12-09-2011, 01:39 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases


Author:  Zenguy [ 12-09-2011, 03:24 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases


Author:  Highland_Piper [ 12-12-2011, 10:44 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases


Author:  azamiel [ 12-16-2011, 03:20 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases

I really like all the stuff, that comes with the download package of "Guncrawl". Great value for the money und the props look amazing. BUT (and this is a big BUT for me) it really is kind of a sandbox game. It's a scenario driven dungeon crawl without ANY scenarios, stats for the xenomorphs, marines, weapons, etc. Of course you CAN come up with everything on your own, but I would like to see some samples, basic guidelines, beginners scenarious, etc. to have something to hold on to before i make my own scenarios and stats. There should have been some scenarios on the ebbles miniatures forums (at least boardgamegeek said so), but the forum is offline. PLEASE point me to some stuff (e.g. a weblink) for an abolute noob who needs some starters advice.

Author:  MelEbbles [ 12-16-2011, 11:12 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases

Yep! That's exactly what it's supposed to be, a toolbox for building the exact kind of crawl game you wanted, using any miniatures you had on hand. The inspiration for it came from how much I enjoyed playing things like Space Hulk and the little missions included with Battle for Macragge, and my desire to seamlessly drop any universe into the game. I might want to put on a Stargate game one week, Aliens the next, do a Battlestar Galactica boarding action the next week, dig out my Space Marines and do a 40K themed RPG-lite the week after that, or do a 180 and re-enact extremely gritty Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six style CQB missions where people drop like flies if they get hit once.

As for the lack of scenarios and online resources, a lot of that has to do with the fact that I closed down Ebbles Miniatures and basically put the whole website into stasis on a minimal shared hosting package. I didn't plan to put Guncrawl back on the market at all, but I got a large number of requests for it and caved in. I'll need to go dig into the old forums and see if there's some way I can put together all the old profiles and missions and move them over here. Gimme a couple of days to temporarily bring the Guncrawl section of the Ebbles forum back online so people can use that as the interim archive, and I'll work on moving the stuff over from there.

Author:  Jaynz [ 12-16-2011, 12:15 PM ]
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Author:  azamiel [ 12-16-2011, 02:21 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases


Author:  MelEbbles [ 12-19-2011, 11:01 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases

Here you go!

I activated the Guncrawl specific sections of the old Ebbles forum and put the whole thing into read-only mode. I also activated the Flying Lead section because people have asked me for that too.

http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/forum/

There isn't a ton of stuff up, but there should be enough to get a feel for where my head was when I set up the profiling rules, and one of the forum regulars compiled a FAQ in that section as well.

Author:  joydyhee [ 12-19-2011, 11:06 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases

Thanks!

Author:  thothkins [ 12-20-2011, 03:31 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: December Ebbles Labs releases

thanks for taking the time for that. Adds to an already good buy.

Author:  azamiel [ 12-21-2011, 07:02 AM ]
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Thank you very much. This really helps.

Author:  Bewildered Badger [ 01-02-2012, 12:02 PM ]
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Great to see Ebbles miniatures have found a new home at WWG! I'm looking forward to more from the back catalogue appearing. Plus, hopefully, some new stuff! (That USSC Gunship from the blog looks brilliant. I do hope it'll be available here.)

One teeny tiny request: is there any possibility that the Guncrawl basic tile set could be sold on it's own? I already have the four sets that come with it.

Author:  MelEbbles [ 01-03-2012, 10:37 AM ]
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Author:  Bewildered Badger [ 01-03-2012, 03:33 PM ]
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Ah, well, that's frustrating. As much as I'd like the tiles (either the originals or the updated version), I can't really justify re-buying the sets I already own. Maybe if I win the lottery...
Still, if that's what makes best economic sense for you guys I can't complain. It'd be unrealistic to expect WWG to cater solely for MY needs!

And it's disappointing to hear there's no new Ebbles goodness on the horizon. That USSC gunship looked sweet. But if you're getting steady work and new opportunities, then that has got to be your priority.

Author:  DeltaIce [ 01-12-2012, 08:55 AM ]
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I really wish you would add the Derelict II Mega Set and Firebase Maginot sets to your stuff here on WWG. They are fun to work with. I have made an array of different coloring options for different enviorns. They are wonderfull sets, Chris!

I bought the GunCrawl set for my great grandson and he was thrilled. I decided to make boards for the Derelict II Mega Set and Firebase Maginot as well for him. He is in hog heaven with them and his parents were as well. They are now playing as a family, which was my hope. I have read on these forums how other families do so and I so much wanted this for him. It hurt me to see him sitting alone so much with a handheld game ... so isoloted. He has as well invited a couple friends over to play GunCrawl and the Derelict II Mega Set and Firebase Maginot boards I made for him. They also had sat with those handheld games like he had. You should see them interacting now ... I am so happy! They do tend to add some of their own rules, which is fine.

Anyway, I hope you will add those two sets. I don't care how old they are they are still great sets.

Author:  Gamesmith Denny [ 01-12-2012, 10:15 AM ]
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Author:  MelEbbles [ 01-12-2012, 11:54 PM ]
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What Denny said. That was a nice thing of you to do.

Derelict II and Maginot date back to 2003/2004, and while they hold a special place in my heart, they're just too far out of date on too many points to re-release in their original form. I would rather redo or re-imagine them completely in modern formats and at my current level of texturing skill. The biggest holdup to that is finding enough room in my tiny office to stage a suitably epic photo shoot.

Author:  Zenguy [ 01-13-2012, 12:29 AM ]
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Author:  MelEbbles [ 01-13-2012, 12:58 AM ]
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Oh, no, we don't ask that of them. The beta team's job is mainly to test build new things and make sure they also work for other people besides the designers. We don't hit them up for photo builds because it's a lot of work to stage and take a decent photo shoot. :)

I can't speak for the other designers, but I know I prefer to take the photos myself when I can. For one thing, I like having direct control all of the variables like lighting, composition, and color balance, plus I can stage things to make postprocessing in Photoshop easier. For example, controlling the balance of diffuse vs direct illumination by strategically moving the camera and the lights means I don't have to try and fix glare hotspots or deal with washed-out colors and detail.

I also have no problem scrapping a whole photo shoot or rebuilding a hero model if I screwed something up (giant glue blemishes or sloppy edging on the hero model or whatever), but it feels unfair to hold a beta tester's feet to the fire like that. :)

Author:  DeltaIce [ 01-13-2012, 08:49 AM ]
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Thank you Denny and Mel for your kind words. All of you designers are special. Your vision gives us the models (tools) to let loose our own creativity in dioramas and game boards. You all are very special indeed.

I found the discussion of the photo shoot for a model or set very interesting. Like Zen, I had thought that was part of the wrap up that someone else did, though I can see why a designer would want to control that.

I can't help but wonder what a reboot of those two sets would be like. Wow!!! is all I can imagine. If you are like me, however, you'd rather do something new than revamp what you have already done.

Reading other post, I know you are into other scales ... action figures, dollhouse scale ... and the like. I started playing around with the plastic army men scale when my great grandson made me a deal I couldn't refuse on his army men a few years ago. I did it just to help his little sale, but became fascinated about modeling for them.

It happens :)

Author:  MelEbbles [ 01-13-2012, 11:47 AM ]
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Were the army men about twice as big as 28mm figures? I like that scale too! In fact, I've been spending half an hour or so a day building a 1:30 scale Ares Vulcan over the past week for the heck of it. Just the left foot and the arms remain to do on the base build, then it's on to the weapons and options. I'm supposed to do a photo post on my blog when I'm done with the base build.

I miss those little army men style spacemen figures--if I get my hands on some, I'd like to see if they paint up okay and take a poke at some sort of in-scale moonbase diorama. Failing that, it'd be fun to get back into sculpting 54mm tall figures. I used to do that a lot with Sculpey/Fimo back in the mid-1990s.

I see a lot of appeal in doing Derelict III in TerrainLinx format and Maginot's successor as a SwiftScenics set. More so if I can figure out how to blimp them up to 1:30 scale after the fact. :D

Author:  DeltaIce [ 01-14-2012, 07:39 AM ]
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