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Author:  TheAuldGrump [ 06-14-2005, 08:51 PM ]
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With Himmeltwitch chugging along I started thinking about what tools and books would be good for building a city to use the buildings in. :)

First Cityworks by Fantasy Flight Games - a D20 supplement, and pretty nifty, it changed the way I layout cities, not so much the city design itself, but how I structure it.

A Magical Medieval Society: Western Europe - a D20 supplement with no D20 mechanics... a wonderful book, and the part that pertains to my current topic is available separately and for However be warned that it is a viscious, evil trap - while the portion given can be used all by its lonesome it will suck you into buying the whole book... Drat Expeditious Retreat for making a useful demo!

For software I use Fractal Mapper with the handy dandy city building from the Fool over to . Those tools chopped the time it takes me to map out a city to about a quarter or less of how long it took me without them. (And caused me to use Fractal Mapper a whole lot more often...)

For close-ups of neighborhoods I use . Though it looks like the project has stalled. (It happens with most mapping programs sooner or later it seems.)

What other tools and books are out there that I may have missed?

The Auld Grump

Author:  Aleph13 [ 06-14-2005, 09:00 PM ]
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Have you looked through the new DMGII?

If you haven't, don't dismiss it as just more of the same. It's got a ton of useful information for fleshing out worlds for experienced DMs, and stuff on how to start for new DMs.

There's a huge emphasis on city-building, from a roleplaying and societal perspectives. Plus, there's a ready-built city that takes up an entire chapter, with loads of details for the important people, buildings, districts, guilds, and political structures and struggles.

Author:  TheAuldGrump [ 06-14-2005, 10:27 PM ]
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I haven't seen DMG II yet, but intend to when I get the chance.

An old favorite of mine, sadly long crumbled to shreds, is Midkemia Press' Cities, a series of really nifty encounter tables. The author Raymond Fiest created the world of Mikemia for the company, then went on to write some fairly successful novels set in his world.

Also handy are the sheets in the Campaign Planner series by Ronin Arts. (But then again I am, perhaps, a bit biased...) In particular the sheets for Campaign Outline, Key Campaign Events, Campaign Climax, Session Event Tracker, Adventure Outline, Site Based Encounter, Event Based Encounter, a fair slew of sheets for mapping and detailing cities using the DMG, Urban Event Template for planning how the city handles major or catastrophic events, Taverns & Inn, Shops & Marketplaces, Guilds & Organizations, Rumours, Background Chatter, Unresolved Issues (very handy when the players don't follow up on something, or you add something on the fly), Weather (by climate), and the Secret Society sheet.

The sheets that see the most use however are the Adventure/DM review sheet, about six copies every few sessions, and the Session History page, every single game, though multiple sessions are sometimes crammed on to one sheet. (Tracks experience points, events, creatures, and NPCs encountered.) Both of these sheets are handed to the players, while I use the Session History page as well, meaning seven a week or so. I find it amusing when something shows up on my page but not on the player's, or vice versa.

There are a bunch more, but those are the ones I haul out when I am planning out an adventure set in a city.

Ah well, nappy time.

The Auld Grump

Author:  Piergeiron [ 06-14-2005, 11:49 PM ]
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Even if it's setting specific, what about the new Waterdeep: City of Splendours? I'll bet you could glean a ton of stuff from it (when it eventually comes out of course).

Author:  Aleph13 [ 06-14-2005, 11:57 PM ]
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For setting specific stuff, there's also the excellent Sharn: City of Towers book. A lot of the content would have to be tweaked for use in any other setting, but the amount of goodies in there are too numerous to count!

Author:  magsman [ 06-15-2005, 02:28 AM ]
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How do you guys afford all this stuff?

(this pauper's getting pissed!)

MAGSMAN

*EDIT* - :shock: Glad to see you've got your Auld grfx, Aleph. You'll have to tell me how to do it! :?

Author:  TheAuldGrump [ 06-15-2005, 06:01 AM ]
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I was thinking in more generic terms, else I would have mentioned the original City State of the Invicible Overlord - for the maps if nothing else. There is now a D20 version, but I have not seen it.

Hey Mags, at least part of one of my recommendations is available free! :P I tend to buy supplements for doing something myself rather than premade cities. (And I got Campaign Planner 2 and 3 for free. Thanks Phil, and Happy Bithday!) So while Sharn and Waterdeep look interesting I will be giving them a pass, since I do not use their settings. Now the old Cities of Mystery from TSR would be on the list, but it was well and truly tied to 2nd ed. AD&D.

Since they reorganized the site when they moved to the new server [url=ENWorld.org]E. N. World's[/url] list is a bit of a pain to find stuff on, just a pile of stuff with no descriptions. But on page three of the list is a town generator. And Mike's Helpers also has one, useable if you have Microsofts dot net architecture (free). The town generator I use is no longer available, otherwise I would give it a URL.

Another site with city maps (kinda 'meh' maps, but free) is [url=Irony.com]Irony Games[/url]. Look under Mapmagical Software.

The Auld Grump

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