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WorldWorksGames :: View topic - GENCON: WWG @ GenCon 2010!
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GENCON: WWG @ GenCon 2010!
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Author:  uncre8d1 [ 08-11-2010, 11:14 AM ]
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Author:  Curt Voiles [ 08-11-2010, 06:23 PM ]
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This Gen Con was the best. WorldWorksGames has arrived in Indy. Met Denny, Aubrey and Tasha. Photo in gallery. It was so great to meet with them and the other forum members.

Uncre8d1, I wanted to thank you for taking the time to explain the Wormhole game and your upcoming kitbashes for the game.

No one could miss the massive build of Terraclips sets at the Wyrd booth. Very impressive. I think that Denny, Aubrey and Tasha could build those sets blind folded by the end of the convention. They had to be hoarse by the end of the con. I was happy for the Denny and crew to see many inquisitive attendees stopping at the booth to check out the product line. As big as the dealer room was Fat Dragon was on the same isle. What was up with that?

Author:  Aleph13 [ 08-12-2010, 09:53 AM ]
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You guys are all incredible! It was so cool to meet everyone face to face, and talk to the fans that have supported us for so long.

GenCon was stellar! :D

A huge thank you to Curt Voiles, Ken Falkson, and Tomas Mennes, who all graciously loaned their own builds for the show!

And special props to Ben and Jamie, who took the time to create a ticket box (with attached pens) and gave us a roll of tickets, so we could give away Denny's original CastleWorks Ultimate build! We had the entire intersection at our corner booth jam-packed on Sunday; it was such a huge turn-out for the drawing that we gave away 3 pdf downloads, too! Thank you, Ben and Jamie - you two are awesome human beings!

Pics to come soon (and yes, even some cosplayers)!

Author:  morganm [ 08-12-2010, 03:57 PM ]
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Author:  Gamesmith Denny [ 08-12-2010, 04:32 PM ]
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Author:  LD2062 [ 08-12-2010, 07:22 PM ]
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Author:  Sacretis [ 08-12-2010, 08:34 PM ]
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Author:  DeltaIce [ 08-12-2010, 11:20 PM ]
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Author:  MelEbbles [ 08-13-2010, 02:32 AM ]
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Author:  Spoo [ 08-13-2010, 05:39 AM ]
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While I agree that WorldWorks products have always looked great in real life, you have to admit that it's misleading to leave the clips out of the main TerraClips promotional material. Furthermore, a set with visible clips is necessarily going to look somewhat worse than one without. I suspect that it will still be worth the trade-off in build time, but I feel the consumer should know that ahead of time.

Author:  MelEbbles [ 08-13-2010, 06:31 AM ]
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Misleading? No, I don't agree in the least.

1. WWG didn't have any product on hand to do the promotional material with. Not even prototypes. The promotional material had to be done before they got any product at all to work with, because you need something on the front of the box/bag/whatever at the time of manufacturing.

2. The earliest WWG could get their hands on the product itself was at GenCon.

3. The tentative decision was made to use the virtual promo images as an interim measure for the first run. Once there was product in hand, we'd be able to use the actual product itself to create the later-run promotional imagery. I don't know what the official decision on that is yet, but it was brought up and discussed at one of the staff meets.

4. This is by no means unusual or deliberately misleading. In nearly every industry, packaging is a chicken-or-egg thing. You need imagery for the box, but you can't get that imagery until the things have been manufactured, so you have to get around that somehow. The most common way is to use virtual imagery for at least the first production run.

5. Denny has stated publicly that the promotional images are virtual, and he has explained why.

6. When Denny did the promotional images, he and Matt were also working at breakneck speed and with great effort to get all of the die masters finished against a frightening deadline. He did NOT have the time to screw around painting in hundreds of transparent clips that you wouldn't even see unless you took a loupe to the packaging anyway. It wasn't a profitable use of extremely limited time that was better spent working on, like, the actual product itself.

7. In order to be misleading, WWG would need to have actually lied about it. Nobody told any fibs or porkies, and nobody went around trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.

So, no. Not misleading at all. Misleading implies some sort of dishonest intent, and there was none.

-Mel

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If you adhere to the following, your builds will come out like the promos;

* Glue: Low water content or scrap booking glue to eliminate warping. Go to your favourite craft store and ask for something which will not warp paper. Always apply a thin layer of glue and ensure good coverage.

* Paper: 110lb minimum or a thicker recommended stock of 80lb. The thicker your stock the cleaner your lines will be and the less prone to warping.

* Printing: I personally use laser for everything now which gives a photogloss look on a standard cardstock. That said, builds done pre-2007 were all done with inkjet. The trick with inkjet quality is experimentation. EVERY inkjet requires some tweaking to properties in order to deliver quality prints. Clean your heads often.

* Patience: The more patient you are, the better your builds will come out. Don't expect to create completely clean builds the first time out of the gate. Like any hobby, it takes time to get your head around the finer points. If you're rushing to get something done, you'll start making cutting mistakes and builds will generally come out looking sloppy. If you're using scissors to speed things up...well...you've already lost the battle. ALWAYS use a ruler and hobby knife.

* EDGING! EDGING! EDGING!!! The importance of edging cannot be understated. Edging can turn a mediocre build into something which is hard to identify as a paper model. Advanced edging employs the use of a rainbow of colours which match neighbouring hues.

* Photography: This would take pages to explain but getting photos to match what you see with your eyes is challenging. The #1 rule however is to use reflected light only. NO CAMERA FLASHES!

The bottom line is that the look of your builds will vary depending upon your ability to realize any of the above points. Do we spend a lot of time on our builds and the photography of those builds to give the best possible impression? Absolutely. Is it possible for the end user to create builds of the same calibre? Absolutely. A tour through the user build gallery illustrates all ranges of ability http://wormholegamer.com/photos/index.php?cat=1 . Some are right on the money, some vary wildly.

For more tips & tricks: http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/vi ... php?t=5826

For video tutorials: http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/in ... ages_id=23

For a free beginners guide: http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/in ... ucts_id=13

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