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| Author: | Lord_Abbadon [ 07-16-2010, 05:53 PM ] |
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| Author: | llyrghmnghyll [ 07-16-2010, 06:20 PM ] |
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| Author: | Zenguy [ 07-16-2010, 06:21 PM ] |
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| Author: | Halcy [ 07-16-2010, 07:50 PM ] |
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| Author: | TheAuldGrump [ 07-16-2010, 08:13 PM ] |
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| Author: | UHF [ 07-16-2010, 08:28 PM ] |
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| Author: | bensrpgpile [ 07-16-2010, 08:58 PM ] |
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Holy smokes...that looks amazing! We'll be streaking from the opening Gen Con bell to your booth to stock up. We look forward to adding these beauties to the Pile. Congrats on the exciting new product line. Ben |
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| Author: | llyrghmnghyll [ 07-16-2010, 09:14 PM ] |
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Went to my LGS, Owner wants to buy this as does another D&D guy there. and that was with 2 gamers in the store. |
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| Author: | Kane [ 07-16-2010, 09:57 PM ] |
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Here is something I have not seen asked yet. Are the roof pieces a single hinged piece or do they clip at the top? |
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| Author: | Stashravens [ 07-16-2010, 10:02 PM ] |
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Gotta agree with Qpony a bit here. I don't think his concern was if you were going to support both products, but that this one exists so close to the other with no real plan (or at least mention of a plan) for compatibility. When I first got the email about this, I was extremely excited as a long time fan of your products, and a new fan to TLX. Because I thought it was pre-printed versions / clips / (most important for me) boards... I was very disappointed to see that it was in fact another product line all together. When TLX came out, I invested in all the PDFs of your fantasy line, already had a color laser, and purchased a craftRobo Pro based on your mention in the product instructions, that makes the cutting / assembling portion of the system really sweet. If you were selling bags of clips for that (TLX) system, I would have ordered thousands, if you were making more PDFs, I would have continued to buy. Heck - if you were simply making the floor tiles that would work with TLX I would be all about it. (I don't like making those in particular). But I have to say - this is unfortunately where it stops for me. Unless that is - a hybrid of the two is on the horizon. I can't justify buying any more TLX as I feel your design efforts and licensing will favor the new system. You truly are revolutionizing the table top mini game, and I do wish you the best. I think I am going to have to wait and see what this does with the industry before I dive into another product line. The sad part is - I love making the models... I don't even play anymore! But your work, and the little buildings on my shelves, kept me going. Again, best of luck guys - keep up the great work. Every product builds on the awesome sauce a bit more than the last - you are all very talented artists and extremely creative engineers... I look forward to meeting you at GenCon! |
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| Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 07-16-2010, 11:34 PM ] |
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While TerraClips offers the same modularity/design freedom as TLX, in practice it actually functions quite a bit differently. The two product lines can occupy the same table without offending the eyeballs but they are functionally different. I should also note that these are not simply rereleases of previous offerings but completely redesigned and or entirley new content. We worked very hard at upping our visual game in substantial ways. Lastly, let me reiterate that TLX remains our primary point of production focus. We have several new products in the works for that format. TerraClips is a partner product with Wyrd Miniatures to further bolster their Malifaux product lineup. Future production will always take into account the current popularity of our TLX lineup and the community which has formed around it. |
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| Author: | Lord_Abbadon [ 07-16-2010, 11:41 PM ] |
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A number of times I have read that the quality of the texturing is that level higher on the printed product - is there a dpi increase on Clips? Lord Abaddon of Wormwood |
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| Author: | robert4818 [ 07-17-2010, 07:11 AM ] |
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2 new questions. 1. How many clips are we getting when we buy a set of extra clips? 2. Do you think you may add in Terraclips functionality to the TLX Planner, or will you put out a new planner? |
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| Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 07-17-2010, 07:37 AM ] |
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| Author: | Nickydude [ 07-17-2010, 08:02 AM ] |
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| Author: | Dave [ 07-17-2010, 08:05 AM ] |
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| Author: | DeltaIce [ 07-17-2010, 08:23 AM ] |
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Well, I'll continue with TLX for various reasons. [1] can print however much I need for any build. [2] can kitbash the sets for an incredible amount of variety within any set. [3] can have grid options. [4] don't have time issues, so TLX builds work for me. [5] there is so much material available to mesh with it. I do hope TLX continues to be supported for at least another year or two. Then if WWG can't continue with it perhaps they could liscense it to another company. Terraclips is truly a fantastic product though. It also has a very reasonable price. I no doubt will buy the sets for gifts this year. |
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| Author: | robert4818 [ 07-17-2010, 08:28 AM ] |
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A concern. Often when using standies that come with video games, the plastic clips tend to damage the cardboard figures. The cardboard becomes dented, or even starts to separate as the clips are used. is this a potential problem here? |
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| Author: | Magius [ 07-17-2010, 08:30 AM ] |
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I'll go ahead and jump in (again) to say that I'll be supporting both product lines. Even though we don't have any concrete pictures of the various pieces (yet), I'd imagine that the tabs would be fairly close, either plugging straight into the TerrainLinX slots (and leaving a slight dip between the two - which is fine between two set types, or for a sidewalk/street split). If not, then I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to create a set that converts to the TerrainLinX tabs, with the advantage of a (near) seamless transition between the two systems. Magius out. |
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| Author: | R_Mortisse [ 07-17-2010, 08:50 AM ] |
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| Author: | SeattleGamer [ 07-17-2010, 09:42 AM ] |
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Wow is far too under-powered a word to describe this new product!
I've purchased many (in fact, nearly all) of the WWG pre-TLX products. But my hobby time has always been rather limited, and when it comes to playing games, or building terrain, playing tends to win out most of the time. So my actual builds have been a little ont he minimal side. I LOVE using them, but wish I had more time to build AND play. ALso, I'm one of those who mounts everything to foamcore to make it much more rigid and flat, and that requires some major rework when it comes to interiors (or I just skip the interiors completely). And storage of terrain became a big issue. For those who remember the old GW game Necromunda, that game had cardstock terrain with plastic clip bulkheads. I used to store all of my buildings assembled, and I had multiple sets. Boxes and boxes of terrain just for that one game. But at one point, I was forced to take everything apart. I never got into TLX. Even more time-consuming builds did not compensate for the loss of gaming time. More time to build = less time to play. So this product is IDEAL for me. Comes pre-printed on rigid cardboard, has clips so you can take the builds apart for much easier storage, the textures are insanely amazing, and the price-point for each set is very reasonable. I will be buying multiples of each set, and my hobby budget is about zero dollars per month now. So it's Mac & Cheese for me for a month to afford these. And I don't even play fantasy skirmish much these days. I can only hope these sell so well, that you have reason to venture into other genres. Scifi sets of streets and buildings and other elements would be ideal. So I will vote with my wallet on these sets, and hope that leads to future (pun intended) scifi sets. Congrats to the entire Worldworks Games team! |
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| Author: | Magius [ 07-17-2010, 10:13 AM ] |
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| Author: | menace [ 07-17-2010, 11:06 AM ] |
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| Author: | TheAuldGrump [ 07-17-2010, 11:10 AM ] |
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| Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 07-17-2010, 11:39 AM ] |
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The underlying drive behind bringing TerraClips to market was to introduce a terrain system that simply did not exist within the tangible brick-and-mortar marketplace. A system that is vastly more approachable to the common gaming public but not at the cost of losing the inherent fun of designing your own 3D layouts. The bottom line is this; We obviously have high hopes that TerraClips succeeds where our previous efforts may have fallen short. With Wyrd's fantastic support and faith in the product we've been able to achieve what was previously impossible. The more successful we are, the more cool stuff we can work on to make the community at large happy. I think that's something that everyone here can get behind. |
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| Author: | poulpox [ 07-17-2010, 01:15 PM ] |
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I think this is pure awesome, particularly the association with Wyrd, of whom Malifaux is a brilliant game which really seem to have a bright bright bright future (rules are brilliant, minis keep on improving release after release). I really like to have 3D terrain, however I tried to buy molds and make my bricks, I didn't last 2 months. Bought GW plastic scenery and 1 year later it's still unpainted. Got 2 Pdf of WW games and built only 6 houses... Terraclip seems to me the perfect end product for people like me! I'm glad great spirits got to meet each other on an amazing ground! Now please guys let's work on some outdoor Terraclips for Malifaux (woods, swamp shacks and all that jazz) and I'll love you forever 
T. |
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| Author: | robert4818 [ 07-17-2010, 01:44 PM ] |
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| Author: | Magius [ 07-17-2010, 01:57 PM ] |
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| Author: | poulpox [ 07-17-2010, 02:27 PM ] |
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| Author: | Qpony [ 07-17-2010, 04:41 PM ] |
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I feel like I should clarify my earlier post: I am operating under the assumption that terrain clips will take off and be extremely successful. Based on the price point (which I believe is not too high to push hobbyists away) is why I believe it will be successful. Considering the fixed and variable costs of building terrainlinx products I don't see terrain clips being much more expensive. In fact depending on if you factor in time costs terrain clips will be VASTLY cheaper. Put it another way: Let's say I bought (and I should say I did) 3 PDFs of sets for $52 A Silhouette SD for $300 2 replacement blades for $20 6 250 110lb cardstock reams for $60 10 pieces of black foamcore for $80 1 craft knife for $7 2 replacement blades for $14 1 cutting board for $10 1 continuous ink system for my printer for $80 I've now spent $613. I could buy three of each of the terrain clip sets and three of a new set that would come out for the same price. Now I know the large costs above are fixed costs but keep this in mind: if I was buying three of each of the terrain clips sets that means you are getting: 126 Double sided 6x6 inch floor tiles 252 Double sided 3x3 inch floor tiles 216 6" walls 216 3" walls 210 double sided roof pieces 27 single width stairs 9 double width stairs 27 ladders 264 hand rail sections 216 balconies 210 roofs This means you will have to print out 1437 pages of 110lb carstock and have the robo cutter chew through all those pages. This is also assuming that you are not buying the terrainlinx floors. Keep in mind that you still have to edge, glue and cut out foamcore for all the above pieces which take A LOT of time (I wouldn't see myself doing it before six months assuming an hour a day). I'd like to point out that the above paper costs are estimates but are pretty accurate (roofs might be a little more pages then I estimated). I know there's a lot of numbers but my point is this: if you are starting from scratch there is no reason to buy terrain linx over terrain clips unless you really like cutting it out yourself. And if you've already invested a lot of time in terrainlinx it seems to me like wasted time because TerrainLinx and Terrain Clips are incompatible. I think regular consumers who just want terrain to play with would buy terrain clips, making Terrain clips World Works Games bread and butter moving forward. Link to my work above: or |
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