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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 03-16-2014, 01:04 AM ]
Post subject:	Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Hello! Im new to wormhole and i didnt play yet. I read the rulebook and the statcards very often and im a little bit confused about the Hastati frigate. The statcards say it has 2 moveorders, but the TOS has only 1 switch. So, is the TOS wrong or the statcard? I think its the card because the Hastati is a very powerfull ship for its small price. My first 75p fleet will consist of 2 Frigates (1 Missile+extrasalvo, 1 Plasma) 2 Interceptors I already built 2 advanced frigates, its very hard but its rewarding, and 1 interceptor. Do you think this is a good starting fleet or would be 1 missilefighter instead of interceptor be better? My enemy is building a sathricarian fleet (i built 1 frigate as he built 4 vessels ). Do you have any hints for further fleetconstruction? The map: i have a friend who is garphicsdesigner, he can print the homeworld on a truckcanvas (dont know the english word) in one piece for only 50€ (70$), ill ask him to give me the modified file, so i can gift it as a kitbash? Im from germany so please sorry for my english Lt. Kernt p.s. i like WWG p.p.s. where can i find the rules for moving asteroid clusters?

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Author:	Alexio [ 03-17-2014, 11:13 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Where does it say on the stat cards that it has 2 move orders? I can't find that on mine. I guess it depends on whether you think they need two moves - if so, I would photoshop on another move switch (either cutting and pasting the switches from a ship that has two moves, or just cutting and pasting a move switch to fill the blank middle spot on the Hastati TOS). Or, if you are old-school, printing and gluing on another switch instead... Thanks for posting this, it reminded me that I bought Wormhole and the Verus Fleet but haven't assembled or played them yet (I bought them for a 2014 project).

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 03-17-2014, 01:49 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
if you look at the statcard.pdf there you will find the 3 Hastativariants with Spd 6"-3" Mov 2-1-0 ATK 1-1-0 Ini 3 Arm M Def 5+ Cc 3 So at normal status it has 2 move orders, at damaged 1 and crippled 0 But the TOS has only 1 switch for movement.

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Author:	Zenguy [ 03-17-2014, 02:07 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 03-18-2014, 01:50 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Thank you! But we are a little bit dissapointed. This game was released in 2008 and 2011 and there are still so much errors in the rules and printings. You have to read through the forums if you want clarification for the rules. An errata or clarfications in the downloadfiles would be nice or corrected pdfs. Im not very impressed from this part of the work.

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 05-07-2014, 07:02 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
I found the complete supplement here: http://www.worldworksgames.com/wormhole.html And i already recolored some ADP for my Verusfleet. So...nobody knows if the hastati is supposed to have 1 or 2 moveorders? We play with 1 atm and it feels hard, because all other ships of that class have vel 8 (particlebow) or 2 move orders (corvette) Last game my enemy just spammed particlebows and my fleet is just to slow to go in meleerange.

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Author:	punkrabbitt [ 05-07-2014, 11:08 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
If I recall correctly, Hastati get two move orders. It has been a couple of years since I have played Wormhole, but that is my recollection.

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 05-21-2014, 02:00 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
So I made a new TOS for the Hastati with 2 move orders. Can i post them here or how does it work with this stuff? I think other ppl could also use it.

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Author:	Zenguy [ 05-21-2014, 02:20 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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Author:	Talae [ 05-21-2014, 04:18 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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Author:	Zenguy [ 05-21-2014, 05:34 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Hopefully this one can use the existing instructions for the set which will make the official kitbash process faster. Oh, and sorry forgot to say: Big thanks, Leutnant Kernt, for putting this together and offering it to others.

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 05-22-2014, 06:15 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Ok, ill have to build it and make a photo, then you can get the kitbash. What does "you rang" mean? I cant translate that for me into german.

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Author:	Zephalo [ 05-22-2014, 08:41 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 05-22-2014, 09:06 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
So simple... I thoight it is a special phrase....

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Author:	oldschooldm [ 05-22-2014, 03:12 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
This is what I thought of....

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Author:	Talae [ 05-22-2014, 04:19 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 05-29-2014, 03:23 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Ok, i just submittet my kitbash Here is a photo and some photos from our table Attachments: [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file 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Author:	joydyhee [ 05-29-2014, 04:39 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Looks good! Thanks for the kitbash!

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Author:	Talae [ 05-29-2014, 11:18 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Bash received. Now it is a matter of getting enough judges to check in to have a few sets of eyes on it before moving to release. Thanks for submitting and if we notice something that needs to be changed, we will let you know. It is now just a matter of time for us to get a chance to look at it behind the scenes.

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Author:	punkrabbitt [ 06-04-2014, 05:52 PM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
OK, I have actually researched this and looked through the playtest materials etc... the hastati Frigates do indeed have 2 move orders on the stat cards throughout the various playtest iterations, and the TOS has only ever shown one. I have gone through the (now locked) playtest forum looking for any references to this discrepency. As near as I can tell, the Hastati should have two move orders just like some squadrons and the Control Corvette. When we release the kitbash, it will have some verbage regarding this, but also that this is a strictly unofficial interpretation. Darn you to heck for making me miss Wormhole all over again!

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Author:	Leutnant Kernt [ 06-07-2014, 05:35 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
We also did some playtesting. Without the second move order it is imbossible to kill this damn particlebows. With only one moveorder you receive 16 attackrolls, before you are in range and then the particlebow has still the better armour. Any tips against the particlebows? Is should try to spam missilefirgates maybe...

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Author:	punkrabbitt [ 06-07-2014, 07:20 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Yes, swarms of incoming missiles and fighters can ruin a squadron of Particlebows... I found that the Sathrican fleet usually had to deal with 15 missile salvoes before they could engage the Verus ships.

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Author:	Andorax [ 06-13-2014, 04:56 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble
Heya. Sorry for the long absence, but one of the moderators was good enough to alert me to the situation and ask me to come on board. Yes, your interpretation is correct, the Frigates are supposed to have Move 2, the cards are correct, and the TOS is missing a switch. Thanks for your interest in the game, and I do apologies for the lack of a good, solid FAQ. I'll have to look into the matter.

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Author:	joydyhee [ 06-13-2014, 06:25 AM ]
Post subject:	Re: Questions:Hastati - TOS and some noobish babble

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