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I've got an old book from a carvers' association ... The Full Moon Saloon, thats it ... Anyway, it depicts a model large enough it'd go great over a fireplace. Wouldn't it be great if there was a WWG western set extensive enough to make a nice display like that. A town and with different street and trail elevations ... maybe a nice game mat background too ... just thinking about such stuff lately ... while working on a boat model.
A boom town with a stream for panning gold ... well, whatever a western set would be nice.
I would use the set to play Legend of the Old west, so items related to the scenarios would be perfect:
. jail house with inside
. bank with inside
. gallow (I like the idea of the hanging tree too!)
. stage coach
. COWS
. fences (heavy and light ones), barrels and crates, poles and water basin for animals, cactus and skinny trees, bushes and rolling bushes (anything players can hide behind, as it's crucial for a good gaming)
. saloon inside (maybe that could be made as an extension set)
. balconies/terrasses and bill boards
I think as far as scenario-related items that's all, then I agree with all the other suggestions: train, different shops/houses, indian village and props, fortifications, barels of dynamite/petrol, water reservoir, wind farm thingy (?), laundry lines, citizens and mules/horses, outside toilet...
A couple of thoughts on buildings from the old west especially growing up in rural missouri where almost all of the buildins in the town square date to the time of Jessy James.
Many buildings were not made out of wood. The wooden town is a myth perpetuated by studio backlots more than reality. Now many of your houses and such would have been wooden.
The Farris theatre. Built 1901
Caldwell County Courthouse: Built 1898
Lexington Mo Courthouse (complete with cannonball from the civil war
Many of your houses would be wooden, but either simple, or if the person was rich enough, a victorian styled house.
The simple fact is that many buildings would not look alot like what was seen in many of the old spegetti westerns.
Of course, multiple sets could contain your basic "Backlot Western" and "Real West" buildings, but I did want to point this out.
Gear Head Joined: 07-16-2011, 04:36 PM Posts: 934 Location: Galesburg IL
Okaaaay... Now that the "Deadfall" Western set has been officially announced as being in the works, here is my 'complete' wishlist workup for Standees by groupings. As Westerns involve horse travel it requires characters to be alternately riding and afoot at some points - regardless of any possible Horror attributes.
Player Characters-(20) ------------------- Aerialist (Male & Female) Adventurer (Male & Female) Brawny Guy Cigar-chomping Tough Guy Crazy Wild-Eyed Guy Equipment Guy Man in Dark Duster & Large Brimmed Hat Mechanic / Inventor (Male & Female) Professor (with pipe) Professor's Female Assistant (with notebook) Professor's Male Assistant (with gear) Shootist Shootist with "Lightning Gun" Special Agent Steampunk Priest Young 'Steampunker' (Male & Female)
Frontier Folk-(40) ----------------- Banker Bargirl / Prostitute Bartender Blacksmith Bonnetted Town Woman Calvary Officer (standing; riding) Calvaryman (standing; riding) Chinaman Worker Cowpoke / Ranchhand Dirt Farmer Dirt Farmer Wife Drifter (Duster or Serape) Eastern Businessman Gambler Gunfighter / Gunslinger Judge Lawman (Sheriff / Marshal / Deputy) Merchant / Store Owner [sweeping boardwalk?] Piano Player or Banjo / Guitar Player Plump Matron Miner Pony Express Rider / Young "Cowboy" Preacherman Prim Eastern Lady Railroad Conductor Railroad Engineer Railroad Gandydancer (Tracklayer) Rich Easterner Rich Rancher Schoolmarm Stage / Wagon Driver Telegraph Clerk Tenderfoot Easterner (Striped White Coat & Strawhat) Town Drunk Travelling Showman / Snake-Oil Salesman Undertaker Young Boy Young Girl
Indians / Mexicans-(20) ------------------ Commanchero (standing; riding) Indian Woman Indian Woman with Papoose Indian Medicine Man / Shaman Navajo (blueshirt) Navaho Woman (blueshirt) Plains Chief (standing; riding) Plains Brave (standing; riding)
Desperado (Bandito with Bandolier - standing; riding) Fine Spanish Lady (headpiece & handfan) Mexican Boy (white outfit) Mexican Army Officer Mexican Army Recruit Peasant Worker (white outfit) Spanish Don (richman) Spanish Padre
Animals-(20)* ------- Bear Buffalo Chicken(s) Cougar (mountain lion) Coyote Horses: -Broken Down Nag -Burro -Calvary Mount (with equipment) -Horse in Harness -Wild Mustang -Packmule (laden) -Pinto (Painted Indian Pony) Mangy Town Dog Cattle: -Longhorn -Milk Cow (Gurnsey or Jersey) Prairiedog herd Sheep Snake (Rattler) Vulture Wolf
* I would have included Jackalope [LOL] but it would have made the list top 20.
~I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albequerque... but I know where my towel is!
Gear Head Joined: 11-09-2011, 03:55 PM Posts: 619 Location: Where the mountains, plains, and desert meet
Necroing this again, just to throw a quick note.
There are a lot of ghost towns still around here, and the 'wooden town' was very much real when you got to this side of the great plains. Part of this was due to the 'catalog order' buildings which would be shipped in slats to be assembled quickly on site, the other part was that there was quite a haul for heavy materials (IE, cut, crafted stone) to travel the Plains.
This is to say nothing of the 'logging' towns in the early 1800s frontier, namely the Mississippi valley, which were predominantly made of thick logs (since they were easily available). These would pretty much stop once you hit the Missouri River.
The "real", "permanent" buildings, the ones made of sandstone, quarry rock, or brick, would come once a town established itself, and those you would see as the bank, church, jail, courthouse, and so on.
I am curious as to what Matt would come up with for either 'forest frontier' walls or the Old West brick walls. And, of course, we still need stucco and adobe... So much to do.. so much to do..
Kitbash / Boosters Works In Progress: TLX - Deadfall - Dusty Alleys Booster MMM - Beefy Chef (Reworking) TLX - Evil Genius HQ - Inner Sanctum
Hi everybody. I am hoping someone will be able to tell me if there was a bash of a western mine shaft set ever created. Thinking about building the Deadfall sets. I want to use the cavern set for an abandon mine build. Missed the kickstarter for Wild West Exodus the miniatures game, but Deadfall could make some great terrain board.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I started working on a kitbash of a while back - put it on the back burner for a while once I realized there are WWG tracks I might be able to abuse. Not sure if this is something that interests you or not.
I knew I saw them on the board. You are very, very talented. Your mining bash would work well with my next Deadfalls builds. How would you like a build from me? Using your kitbash set and of course I will also use your bash for my build. Your build will come first. How much of your graphics are WWG's art?
Looks like I'll be purchasing the Deadfall series.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Well OK then. I will shoot for submitting a multi-layer PDF for The Garden - City Walls by mid-week (it's going pretty smoothly) and I'll change gears back to the mines. I looked at my files and it looks like I have to re-export a lot of stuff because the tiles are all WAY too dark. I'll post updates on that in the kitbash thread, so you can see progress there.
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