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Author:  Papercruiser [ 11-17-2012, 07:06 AM ]
Post subject:  Thinking about a cutting machine

Hey guys, a very nice community you have here. I make paper cars and am to the point where I think a paper cutter might really be nice. All ill be doing is print and cut. So, I've been researching this and someone over on a paper modeling forum pointed me here.

I guess what I want to know is if its really a time saver to cut out models with a machine, and if its truly accurate or just hit-and-miss with registration. Im hoping for dead-on accuracy. I usually have my final models printed at Kinkos on 110# card stock.

I'm looking at the black cat cougar or the silver bullet... Been reading good things about those machines.

Thanks for any advice :) :-?

Author:  mproteau [ 11-17-2012, 08:59 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Cutting machines are pretty darn accurate, though if edging is important without a cutter, it's often essential if the cuts are a TEENY bit outside the lines. It happens.

There are many types of pages where it's just faster to cut by hand rather than line up the page on a sheet, load it, try to detect the registration marks (it sometimes fails for me), line the head up manually, then cut. When I first got it, I'll admit to using the wrong cutfiles on pages sometimes. Recently, I set the blade depth wrong and it ended up not cutting smoothly. Things happen - it's not perfect.

But, when I've got a lot to work on, it's great to have the printer humming, the cutter cutting, and me edging and gluing all at once. :)

Author:  joydyhee [ 11-17-2012, 01:54 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Welcome to the forums!

My cutter has been a real time and finger-saver for me. I cut as much terrain as possible and have used it for other things as well (did Christmas cards one year, may do again). If you ar3e doing more that a minor amount of print and cut, then this is the way to go.

I use the Silhouette SD, which I got because it is compatible with what I cut the most. If you are doing your own thing, I would say you have more options.

Author:  ehisey [ 11-17-2012, 09:04 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Welcome. There is an art to getting the best use out of a cutter. What you find it works well for it is almost irreplaceable for. In the case of WWG, it is the solution for cutting posts, Walls, and Tiles. My cutter pretty much doubled my build speed just because of how much easier post's got.

If you want accurate repeated cuts, then the time to get the carriers lined up and cutting is well worth it.

Author:  Haydn [ 11-17-2012, 09:33 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Now I have my SD, I could not cut without it.
I would strongly recommend, and it's wife happy as I cut out shapes etc for her.

Author:  Papercruiser [ 11-18-2012, 06:45 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

S is it possible to do a PNC on a pre-existing printout? For example if you had a sheet printed at Kinkos or something for better results?

Author:  ehisey [ 11-18-2012, 07:40 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine


Author:  MelEbbles [ 11-18-2012, 12:21 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Hi there!

Currently, the only machines we support out of the box are the ones driven by Silhouette Studio. You can use other cutters, but you'd be doing your own cutfiles and putting more work into it.

Printouts with registration marks can be registered and cut, while printouts without registration marks aren't worth trying to print-and-cut. Registration marks are already present in our PDFs, however, so it's not something the end user has to worry about.

Kinkos and the like might give you some grief over copyright, but assuming you get past that hurdle, you shouldn't have a problem as long as you make sure they don't scale the output and as long as their equipment is accurate.

As for accuracy, I've found that they're about as accurate or less accurate than a human with a knife and ruler, and they often have a quirk or two. Mine, for example, acts like it's possessed by the ghost of Salvador Dali whenever it runs into round shapes, but otherwise behaves normally.

The only real advantage they bring is speed and convenience--I can do a better job hand cutting things than my cutter can, but it can do it in a few minutes compared to half an hour or more by hand, and there's something to be said about being able to lean back with a coffee while a machine does the boring part for you.

Are they worth the expense? Depends on what you do.

-If you mostly do very simple papercraft items that you can hand cut in a few minutes, then it usually isn't worth the hassle of setting up the cutter.

-If you routinely do more complicated papercraft models and you're short on hobby time, they can ensure that you spend more of your hobby time on the fun part and less of it on the boring part.

-If you have arthritis or any other medical condition that makes using a knife and ruler difficult, they can help you continue to enjoy your hobby without having to give it up.

-If you're looking to do large volumes of identical items like scenery components in a hurry, and doing the same thing more than a few times makes you lose the will to live, then a cutter really comes into its own and starts making back what you spent on it.

Hope that helps!

Author:  robby [ 11-18-2012, 04:20 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

I've had my Robocutter for a few years now. Even with my reduced modeling lately, it is definitely on my list short list of "best papercraft purchases" I've made. As Mel said, for simple stuff I don't use it, but for models with a lot of cuts or fiddly cuts, its great. Even when its a temperamental beast, its worth it.

That said, I usually make WWG and Ebbles models, which have cutfiles already. I haven't spent much time creating my own cutfiles, and don't know what that is like - others around here do, so listen to what they have to say about that. It is actually an influencer in what I'll purchase - a complicated with no cutfile is pretty much a no-go for me anymore.

Author:  mproteau [ 11-18-2012, 04:30 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Since getting my cutter, my wife has had me do a number of projects. We've done Halloween decorations, birthday cards etc. I made some crazy complicated pattern for my in-laws 50th anniversary. I think having the cutter is one of the things that has made my wife more accepting of my papercrafting hobby... ;)

Author:  Papercruiser [ 11-18-2012, 08:02 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking about a cutting machine

Thanks everyone for your responses!
My paper models are slowly getting more and more complicated, and like you all I don't mind the cutting, but when designing a model you sometimes have to build it over and over, it gets old ;) My models typically take 30-60 minutes to cut, going slow and doing an exact job.

From what I can tell the cutting machines are just now getting good enough to do good quality print-and-cuts, which is all I'd be doing.

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