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Author: | Onemonk [ 09-16-2009, 06:07 PM ] |
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Author: | Lord Manimal [ 10-07-2009, 06:01 AM ] |
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Author: | Qpony [ 10-07-2009, 08:32 AM ] |
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Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-07-2009, 10:55 AM ] |
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Author: | Thraug [ 10-08-2009, 08:12 AM ] |
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I'm pretty sure I would buy all sets updated to robo standards. I know I've been reluctant to buy non-conforming sets. |
Author: | Qpony [ 10-08-2009, 08:53 AM ] |
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Denny - I know some people have already converted parts of WWG sets to craftrobo (not Terrainlinx) and I'd love to get my hands on the GSD files for it. For example I'd really love to get GSD files for the swampworks or hinterland sets. I know SwampWorks has been at least partially converted and I don't want to print out that set until I've got GSD files for some of the harder pieces. So my question to Denny is - do you have GSD files for some of the WWG sets? I don't care if the set is only partially converted, I'll take whatever I can get. |
Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-08-2009, 09:39 AM ] |
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Author: | Easy Rhino [ 10-08-2009, 09:46 AM ] |
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Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-08-2009, 09:56 AM ] |
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Author: | Ghenghis_Ska [ 10-08-2009, 10:19 AM ] |
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Author: | Squirmydad [ 10-08-2009, 10:35 AM ] |
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Author: | alanshutko [ 10-08-2009, 10:52 AM ] |
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Author: | Qpony [ 10-08-2009, 01:24 PM ] |
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Denny - I personally would prefer (and I assume so would anyone else who owns a Silhouette) to get partially completed sets as they come. The people who are doing the conversions probably don't have that much time to work on conversion so it might take a while to fully convert a set. That being said I have two solutions for how to manage this: 1) Have partial sets uploaded to you that you provide links to on request (to make sure people don't get stuff they didn't pay for) or 2) Have "internal trading" where someone will request from you to confirm what they have purchased to the people who are working on the conversions. That way no one will get stuff they don't pay for For #2 there is an easy way to control it... we can just use a free tool at getdropbox.com (mentioned above) and share folders with people on the forum based on your approval. Or, if you prefer, you can control the dropbox account and give out access directly, making it a very easy for you to grant access. I would also be happy to setup the dropbox folder completely and then turn over control to you so you can just add people to folders as needed (no setup and minimal maintenance) Benefits to WWG to implement one of the two solutions above: As someone who is a loyal customer I personally would really appreciate if we could implement one of the solutions. Especially with some of the more difficult models (ex. many parts of swampworks or the Hellworks 3D statue) this would be a huge value to me and others and shouldn't be too difficult to manage (just simple user access). Another benefit I would point out is by using dropbox you can have the people working on these collaborate so there is no duplication, which is already a problem. This will consequently allow sets to be converted faster and provide more customer value add. It will also make your Terrainlinx conversions faster, since the more props that are converted by users the less WWG employees have to convert, freeing up their time for other projects. In short: the above solutions really bring more value/benefit to WWG then not implementing them; it makes the customers happy and reduces workload for WWG. Please give it some thought, Thanks, |
Author: | Ghenghis_Ska [ 10-08-2009, 02:03 PM ] |
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Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-08-2009, 02:36 PM ] |
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Author: | Qpony [ 10-09-2009, 05:21 AM ] |
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Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-09-2009, 08:36 AM ] |
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Author: | Sirrob01 [ 10-12-2009, 12:54 AM ] |
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Author: | Lord Manimal [ 10-13-2009, 12:53 PM ] |
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I fully agree with Denny on the completed set argument. I've been doing conversions on other people's stuff the past few weeks, and it really does make it more coherent. Squirmydad taught me everything I know about the conversion process, the only difference is that I prefer to make a larger GSD file that includes the graphics, so robocutter users don't even have to mess with PDF's; although I still make them in case someone wants to print their stuff on an office printer or something like I do, when I can. I do all the resizing etc in photoshop, get it to within the guidelines, export a jpg image, make a silhouette as per the instructions, export a .jpg or .gif of that, make the GSD file, print it, test cut it, then create a PDF from that gsd file with cutepdf. As to the person that asked for a template to use, a template isn't necessary, just draw down your photoshop guidelines to a 9x7.5 inch rectangle, i.e. 1 inch down from the top, one inch up from the bottom, a half inch in on each side. |
Author: | Spoo [ 10-13-2009, 06:50 PM ] |
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I wonder how much image quality is lost in the PDF intermediate graphics format PDF conversion chain. It would be interesting to see some "before-and-after" samples. |
Author: | Cozmo [ 10-14-2009, 06:36 AM ] |
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the way I do it, I see zero difference, even zoomed in 400% I spent a lot of time, trial and error, tweaking settings in PS and Adobe, to make it this way though open the orig. in PS, do the work that needs to be done there, and I save as a full BMP, usually 20-40 megs per page. insert it in robomaster, and do the work that needs to be done there. Saving a full size GSD (20-40 megs). once I'm done in robomaster, I print to PDF using custom high quality setting (usualy ends up, about .5 of meg bigger then the original PDF was, but with registration marks ect.) I then delete the background image from robomaster, leaving just cut/score lines and save a GSD again (about 5k).... this leaves me with three files one super-size GSD, with both image and cut lines, for anyone who wants to do it all out of robomaster one near original size pdf, modified to fit robomaster, and with registration marks, and one small GSD, with just the cut/score lines, for anyone wanting to print and cut separately. I did some 400% zoom ins, and hosted them, the images are about 2 meg each....I don't think I'm showing anything usable, but mods feel free to edit out the links if this is not acceptable. looking at the flame, and the texture pixles on the stone walls, I can't see even a pixel of difference, and certainly printed out normal size they look identical (to me at least) Original pdf zoomed in 400% http://67.55.34.166/Blog/before.png after all processing and printed back to PDF, zoomed in 400% http://67.55.34.166/Blog/after.png *edit* it shold be noted, that I've not had to deal with any real organic shapes yet though, so the need to do silhouettes hasn't come up yet *edit 2* I also do, what was said below me, everything is forced to 300 DPI |
Author: | Lord Manimal [ 10-14-2009, 06:37 AM ] |
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I force my images to 300dpi, even if they were designed at 200dpi, so I've not noticed any quality difference at all. I actually have some side by sides of OneMonk's figures I did earlier on, as I had the same reservation, but there's no noticable difference that my non-bionic eyes can detect. |
Author: | Squirmydad [ 10-15-2009, 12:30 PM ] |
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Thanks Lord Manimal. I learned what I know from MelEbbles. I like the three-tiered file approach; GSD with image, GSD with no image and seperate pdf. With those whopping 25mb files that had the 300dpi image combined with the GSD file I found they zip down nicely to just 6mb. If you have the gsd and the pdf seperate, they're only 4mb seperatley, 1.2mb zipped together. YMMV Eric |
Author: | Lord Manimal [ 10-20-2009, 08:44 AM ] |
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Author: | Squirmydad [ 10-22-2009, 10:57 AM ] |
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Author: | Gamesmith Denny [ 10-22-2009, 11:34 AM ] |
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Author: | Squirmydad [ 10-22-2009, 08:05 PM ] |
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Author: | Easy Rhino [ 10-30-2009, 06:49 AM ] |
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Author: | morganm [ 11-01-2009, 07:56 AM ] |
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Author: | akanon [ 11-01-2009, 08:13 AM ] |
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