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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I'm kind of torn about it. There really doesn't seem like enough to justify buying in for me. It's kind of cool to see fold-flat mountain-ish things, though I think I'd prefer just nesting them, since as they are, I'd probably end up crushing the lids when storing them. I hope the hobbit - er - halfling house is more than just a retextured version of the one he's already done. I don't know. I don't feel the need for more wilderness, desert, swamp... I have those things, from here and from there. I really liked how Ravenfell buildings assemble, but I was quite let down about the variety of the stuff. I fear that buying into this set would end up getting me really overpriced, ok quality props along with a ton of stuff that is just rehashed material.
I'll try to be optimistic, though. It's better to see stuff getting released than not, and in the end, I'll probably end up supporting the project. It's just hard to get excited.
Mproteau what would excite you with a wilderness project we are all begging him for cool stretch goals and he listens its not to late to talk him into more cool ideas. i will gladly relay it to him if you can't post in the kickstarter yet if you can please tell him how to make it better.
I own basically everything fantasy or fantasylike (no modern or sci-fi) from all the companies and yet i find when trying to build a scene that soooo many pieces are missing from my extensive library of stuff. You Mproteau are the reason I keep checking these boards here several times a month because of your kit bashes wish i had the talent I love what you do. And you are right about Lord Zsezse can't wait for them to finally be done. As for the price issue $69 gets you 6 sets which averages $11.50 a set which in a remarkable conincidence is exactly what WWG sets cost. And you can get just the halfling's for $6. Keep making the kit bashes i love them.
I love FDG sets and Tom does external/outside sets great. He has given us everything we need already.
I have not bought into the Ravenfell kickstarter, but I started buying most of the Ravenfell sets as they were released on RPGNow. I stopped before the last few, Im just not satisfied with them. I think for me its mostly the flimsy unstable fold-flat buildings. Sounds great on paper and looks good in the ads but its nothing compared to FDG classic EZ-lock sets or WWG TerrainLinx.
In summary I agree with everything mproteau has said.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I actually *really like* the fold-flat buildings of Ravenfell. I just wish there'd be more variety between the building textures. I can tell a Thoumont's building from an Inn of the Feisty Friar building. Maybe my eyes just are more in tune with those sets. I just pulled up the promo pic for the ravenvell core set an the dragonshire deluxe edition set, and it's hard to tell from the picture that these are really all that different. The building geometries got a little wonky for my tastes in the second expansion set recently released for ravenfell, and it's really the geometries that set the buildings apart. Still, I prefer the fold-flat nature of the basic buildings there to the fold-flat SwiftScenics line.
Each system has merits and weaknesses, and there's room for multiple systems. The question to me was what would excite me, and the answer was more creativity. I think it's great to have choice, and maybe the next kickstarter will have more stuff to entice me. I'm just struggling to be excited over this one. As a kitbasher, I've been using the Ravenfell style building system with some Dave Graffam textures, and will gladly do the same with WWG textures for my own use. Similarly, I've spent the money, I'll continue to convert FDG textures into TLX format since that's what I prefer to build. I'm *glad* that there's this variety out there - it definitely benefits me. But, that's why I value the uniqueness of the set.
And, my declaration that the prices are steep is an opinion, not fact. The fact is that the halfling houses come in at a $6 pledge, and other pledges up to $60 come in $14 increments. It is true that mathematically you could average them all together to get to a lower price per 'set' but that doesn't mean the 'value' of a set changes. Comparing the price of the halfling houses to the price of a terrainlinx set is difficult to respect. Comparing the value of the halfling houses to the value of a terrainlinx set has got to be a tough position to defend. I'd rather pretend the comparison wasn't made at all, because I think it detracts from the discussion about the kickstarter.
It's not just about the price. It's about the price, the creativity, the likely overlap with things already released and owned. Taken together, you have to decide for yourself if it's a good enough deal. I haven't convinced myself yet that it is. The awesome thing is, 465 backers decided it IS a good enough deal, and the kickstarter is doing well. Even if I end up not buying into this one, I am excited to see what happens in the next one!
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 09-30-2006, 12:34 AM Posts: 3934 Location: New Zealand
I have deleted a post pointing to a Kickstarter that is in direct competition with a range of WWG sets.
For obvious reasons, WWG's community forums are not the place to promote Kickstarters that directly undermine WWG's business. If you wish to promote such Kickstarters, there are plenty of other places you can do that.
We have very reasonable (see point 6. in particular). Please ensure all posts comply with these rules.
As always, links to Kickstarters for products that complement WWG's offerings are welcome, and indeed encouraged, here.
Moderator posts are in green oraquamarine. My posts are my personal opinion only and do not represent the official view of WorldWorksGames.
Anyone else looked at "The Beacon Hill Project?" on Kickstarter? I won't link it here 'cuz it's competing print and cut terrain. He's got some interesting textures and geometry, but his intro video is really bad. I would rather see some fellow gaming nerd sit there and explain and show his designs than what he put together. It's really not clear how his system works and if it can be reassembled or is only for fairly static builds. (And, I'll admit, I don't have enough patience to read through everyone on the project page.)
Beacon Hill: Now down to 4 $120 backers ($480) of ~$700 in total pledges. My prediction: for every ~$200 in additional pledges, one more $120 backer will go away.
I've back almost 70 projects and had a few go wonky on me. I'm a lot more cynical and skittish than I used to be. So far, only 1 was a total loss for me (Complete Tome of Horrors Miniatures. *sigh*). Two I got my money back from the credit card company (I suspect fraud/poor dealings). Probably 2/3 of the projects have delivered, 1/3 not. Of the 2/3 that delivered, I would say that only 1-2 were disappointing, the rest I was happy with the results. Of the 1/3 that have not yet delivered, 1 is clearly in trouble (but trying to make right), maybe 1-2 are questionable, and the rest are working their way along.
Overall, I consider mine a pretty good track record, but not perfect. And as I say, I'm a lot less trusting and a lot more picky about what I back than when I started.
Gear Head Joined: 11-09-2011, 03:55 PM Posts: 619 Location: Where the mountains, plains, and desert meet
To be fair, Zenguy... WHAT business? Denny announced the end of the business months ago - admittedly on his resume, and not here... I honestly think the whole 'don't promote the competition' argument is pretty much moot at this point.
Kitbash / Boosters Works In Progress: TLX - Deadfall - Dusty Alleys Booster MMM - Beefy Chef (Reworking) TLX - Evil Genius HQ - Inner Sanctum
I'm heavy into the Myth KS, but I eventually decided that the DF kickstarter was just a bit too costly for what I'd be getting. Great stuff, but it just didn't seem to be as flexible as their previous ones.
Bookmarked both, but I'm probably going to pass on both. I'm a little burnt out, and I'm not sure I'll get much play out of either. I'm trying to only pledge for things I know I'll play. Steve
COG Joined: 08-25-2008, 10:42 AM Posts: 152 Location: Ontario
I don't know how many of you already know about my Kickstarter for Save the Day. It's a kid-friendly Superhero RPG with some paper terrain and paper miniature elements. I mainly did this to remedy the whole grim and dark image of superheroes these days and that there are kids in my life that want to play superhero games and they wanted a system that they could grasp quickly and make characters in minutes. Good motivators I think...
I'm working with Drivethru RPG to give backers a chance to order hard copies of the books at cost print on demand. That should be under $5 plus shipping for a softcover version.
I'm backing it -- we use markers on a playmat more often than terrain, so these will be really useful. Mark with dry erase, wet erase, even permanent markers (needs alcohol to come off). They look durable, and colors are coming.
COG Joined: 08-25-2008, 10:42 AM Posts: 152 Location: Ontario
Thanks so much! The add-ons are separate. The $10 level has special files designed just for the Kickstarter. They will be offered later, but they are different than the Add-ons. I should have the free play test adventure out this weekend. I'm just editing it now. Kind of giving a lot away, but I think it's worth it.
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