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I "recently" bought 2 inkjets fairly cheap, and Epson and a Canon, but the issue is the cost of the ink.
The cartridges are around $50/$60 to replace, even when doing refills. My Canon Pixma seems to run out really really quickly, which is infuriating since it's XL cartridges I'm putting in and I do not print that much.
I used to have a Brother MFC-240, which was awesome.
Since you guys print so much I figured this might be the place to go for info. What's the best inkjet without the heavy ink costs?
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I bought a CIS for my Canon MX870, and have no real regrets. It's not without problems, but I'm sure I've saved money in the long run. The most annoying thing is when the carts need tending to, but I'm used to it now. I think the ink system itself was $80, and that had enough ink to last me a long while. ~$22 for 240ml of each color.
I personally found that refillable is the way to go for my model (Epson Artisan 835). Be careful of quality though. Places like Cartridge World often have substandard ink for our needs (probably fine for typical users though). I went some from Precision Colors a while back as per the suggestion of someone here. It cost me about the same as a set of inks and I have hardly touched the supply that I bought. Well worth the money.
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I've realized that unless you are going with refills, secondary sellers (eBay knockoffs) or one of those gigantic bottle systems, its cheaper to get it printed at Kinkos.
My results with a CISS weren't very good, unfortunately. There must be something slightly different with the ink they used versus HP's ink 'cuz the colors were noticeably off compared to official HP cartridges. After market refillable cartridges were also inconsistent in color with the HP ones. I will say that I found some inconsistencies with the official HP carts, too, so I ended up giving up on that printer and bought a laser.
Well, it really depends upon which printer you get. I bought the HP LaserJet Pro 451dn. I played with all the ones I could in the local stores and this one gave the best printout quality if I fiddled with the settings. (using cardstock, but telling it that it's printing on glossy brochure/photo paper) All the other lasers that I tried in the store would produce really muddy prints. I even picked up a used Brother 4040HL that many here like, but I was so disappointed with the prints that I've gone "Office Space" on that thing periodically. For my HP, I was able to combine it being on sale at Staples with a $100 off coupon from their ad (that I don't think should have been combined on the same purchase, but they let me do it) and paid around $340 for it. Its list price is around $500.
Folks on here have often said that laser costs more up front, but you end up paying less per page on toner versus ink for an inkjet. When I do the math regarding toner costs, though, it seems more expensive than my old HP 6500 inkjet was. I haven't actually built anything with it, yet, though. I've mostly just done test prints and fiddled with color/ICC profile settings. So, I don't really know how many pages I'll get out of the toner. I'm just estimating based upon how full the printer tells me the cartridges are after I've printed a bunch of stuff. I'll say this, though: With my inkjet, I felt like I had to use the more expensive papers to get really good prints. With the laser, I'm using just the regular 110lb cardstock from Staples, which is fairly cheap. The prints aren't QUITE as good as high quality photo paper on the inkjet, but it's fairly close. So, I went from using HP photo paper that cost around $20 for 100 sheets to generic cardstock that costs $15 for 250 sheets. (used my Staples Rewards to buy 2 reams of it for free last week, so I'm getting further discounts) So, that's going from about 20 cents per page to 6 cents per page for the paper.
Of course, there are alternatives for inkjets that are cheaper than what I was using. mproteau's thread around big discounts on Staples Premium Matte Photo Paper is a good example. I've got at least 4 packs of that stuff from last year when it was free with a mail-in rebate. It doesn't work well with my laser, though, so I haven't been using it. It's made for inkjets and I bought the laser 'cuz color was getting inconsistent on my inkjet.
I figured my costs at $25 for generic ink carts and $10 for 100 sheets of matte photopaper. The quality I got from Kinkos on regular card stock was easily better. While, yes, I suppose the overall cost is actually less printing at home, the wear and tear on the machine as well as multiple ink blockages or miss-prints brought it to about par.
I used to use generics too before I got my laser printer. I had brothers 240 and 3360 which used the same $4 generics. 4inkjets.com
The issue with switching to generics is that they will NOT be the same exact color as the original cartridges. So when you put the same tiles together you can see the difference. This is prolonged even more when you only swap one cartridge at a time. Of course you'll have the same issue if you are using 2 different brand printers anyway.
Yeah when I first started I had a number of printers. HP, brothers, and cannon. Each of them printed a bit different colors. You can see it in my CWU build. Most obviously in the ground tiles, although the wood colors probably changed the most.
Boiler Joined: 06-01-2009, 11:22 AM Posts: 394 Location: U.S. Colorado
While I used to love my Cannon Bubble Jet printer, even bought a second, when I got my Samsung Laser printer I completely changed my tune. No more moisture issues with the laser. The cartridges last longer than one day like my Cannon used to drink ink. The Samsung boasted 5000 pages, not really that long printing WWG stuff, but it lasted almost two years compared to the one day to one week refills of the Cannon. The manufacturers replacement cartridges floored me, then I discovered e-bay, $20 to $30 a cartridge or the same cost for four new toner bottles and chips and I could refill them myself. Yes, sometimes you do find a bad cartridge, maybe its true the toners are not exact matches batch to batch, but close enough for me considering the costs. My Samsung cost me $400 back in the day, but my new HP cost me $125, but it only boasts 2500 pages. Both print pretty much the same. And now that I found out the Samsung just had a bad cartridge I replaced it and find I now have two laser printers.
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