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/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() WorldWorksGames • View topic - Defiler Magic In Original D&D
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 10-17-2006, 05:54 PM Posts: 1847
Once upon a time back in the 90s, I ran a Dark Sun campaign using the AD&D 2nd edition rules. (If you are unfamiliar with Defilers and defiling, you can check it out here: www.athas.org/articles/defiling-a-histo ... look-ahead ) I thought the Defiler magic was a VERY interesting twist on spellcasting. So much so that I am considering dropping into my OD&D-S&W-DD-Etc campaign. My roadblock is that the original Defiling rules are more complicated on their own than the entirety of mishmashed rules I am currently using.
My first thought was that defiling could be most easily treated as "casting a spell using defiling allows the spell to be cast before any other actions in the round, but causes all vegetation within a number of yards radius equal to the spell level to turn to grey ash." This would also stimulate some roleplaying opportunities.
I am curious what the collective OD&D Hivemind can suggest regarding this. I am interested in ideas about casting defiling spells by normal Magic Users, not in pursuing a separate Defiler class.
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 10-17-2006, 05:54 PM Posts: 1847
Thanks, Zen. I have some ideas gathered from other forums as well, so I am going to synthesize something sweet and simple tonight or tomorrow. Then I will share it here
I am looking forward to seeing what you share. I didn't add anything, because I have no experience with Defiler Magic, but I can definitely see taking some of your ideas and applying them to Mournland characters/npcs or maybe aberrant mark characters/npcs in my Eberron campaign(s).
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WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 10-17-2006, 05:54 PM Posts: 1847
Alrighty, here is what I came up with; it is largely a re-write of the defiling-for-Preservers rules in Dragon 202.
Defiler Spell Casting
Additional Spells By using defiling magic, a magic user may cast a spell that he has already cast, or he can cast one he still has memorized without losing it from memory. A magic user has access to a number of bonus defiler spell levels (not spells) equal to his current experience level minus one. The bonus spell levels can be used only to cast spells that the magic user has memorized, or to cast spells that he had memorized and expended. The bonus spell levels only apply to one battery of memorized spells; they cannot be accessed again until the magic user has had a chance to replenish his normal spell selection.
Decreased Casting Time Casting a spell using defiling allows the spell to be cast before any other actions in a round.
Defiling Conequences A defiling spell causes all vegetation within a number of yards radius equal to the spell level to turn to grey ash, and cause notable discomfort or even non-damaging pain to all living things within this area. There are also social consequences; Lawful beings will be repulsed by the caster's disregard for the life around them, and should be roleplayed accordingly.
What always bothered me about "defiling magic" in Dark Sun was that you still had an option to cast magic that didn't defile. I thought the whole idea was that everyone feared and hated arcane magic because it ALWAYS destroyed the world. I like the idea that using arcane magic has a cost all the time, so you have to be careful. There is no "safe" arcane magic.
Wasn't the not-so-secret idea behind Dark Sun that it was actually The Forgotten Realms thousands of years in the future after magic had destroyed the land? I recall 2nd or 3rd ed had a race of arcane creatures that were magically trapped beneath the Anauroch Desert that used arcane magic to intentionally destroy plant life and expand the desert. I always assumed that it was THOSE creatures that brought about the devastation that led to the bleak world of Dark Sun.
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 10-17-2006, 05:54 PM Posts: 1847
The Dark Sun history was addressed in the novels, the early world was definitely not the Forgotten Realms. I am sure the backstory is online somewhere, IIRC the halflings were the primogenitor race.
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