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Gear Head Joined: 03-10-2006, 10:51 PM Posts: 822 Location: Louisiana
Ok I admit I have never played or owned any version of this game but I have heard a lot of people taling about it and its many verstions before.
I was just reading about the new version that is coming out later this year and have been considering buying it, but before I shell out any money I wanted to get a better idea of what the game was like and how it's played first so anyone wanna chim in here?
Dirigible Joined: 07-27-2006, 07:55 PM Posts: 1265 Location: KL, Malaysia
LOL Thats just what I was thinking........... can't really remember how the game was played, but do remember spending many, many hours with it and having a blast.
I still have my first edition copy and play it with my kids all the time. Great game. Can get a little monatinous at times, but it's really a lot of fun. Nothing better than being the Wizard and getting the Rune Sword. MMMM MMMM GOOD!
CCotD'
When I was growing up, I was told I could be anything I wanted... so I became an asshole!
Boiler Joined: 11-28-2006, 12:04 PM Posts: 381 Location: Plymouth, England
I've played the 2nd edition (I think it was 2nd anyway)
Apparently the last edition was a bit of a turkey.
Hopefully the new release will be as good as the version I remember playing. It's one of the top boardgames when people are asked to pick their favourites.
Check out www.boardgamegeek.com for info on pretty much everything boardgame related.
(I hope putting web links isn't frowned upon. If it is then edit me 'til I bleed!)
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before
Well then, it looks like you need a devil to advocate against said purchase. Allow me ...
My first foray into GW gaming was through Warhammer Quest. A delightful game filled with colorful 2d gaming tiles and many minis and cool rules. I then moved on to Blood Bowl, another delightful "board game with minis", one of my all-time favorites for pure fun. Somewhere in there I picked up Space Hulk, and THAT one is a huge blast to play. (And in all cases above I'm referring to whatever the last version was they released - none of those games have been officially re-released since my purchase, although Blood Bowl di get shuffled off to Specialist Game range, where they tweaked the rules and made it worse).
Okay, so the track record was three homeruns for three, and I picked up Talisman and the expansions. Again, this is the most recent one, the version that most folks say is worse than the original.
The stage is set now.
I don't just get a game I buy into the whole deal, so I got the game and all the expansions in one go (I remember the timing of this, the game was officially discontinued and I thought I'd better score everything before it disappeared from stores). So that was the core game itself, and I believe something like three expansions.
Then a group of us sat down to play. It was ... dull. ZenGuy has an excellent overview of how the game plays out, but to recap here:
1) Start out weak.
2) Roll die to move randomly each turn.
3) Randomly encounter stuff that either kills you (start as a new character) or earns you rewards (so you build up your two main powers, plus gain equipment and such)
4) At some point you go on a quest to earn a Talisman. This is just a card but it's what you must "pay" (forfeit) in order to enter the inner game board, fight the big beastie, and win.
5) Talisman in hand, you do just that. You win or you die.
Now, think Monopoly, only eliminate building houses and hotels. In other words, there is virtually NO player interaction. You are certainly ALLOWED to attack another player, but you must roll such that you can move and land on them exactly. That doesn't happen very often. ANd in our half-dozen games, even when it "could" have been done, it was rare. If one of you is clearly stronger than the other, you are wasting time being a bully to a player who isn't in the running for the final battle. If you are clearly weaker, you wouldn't dream of taking on a much stronger player.
So the only time it really ever happens is when two players of about equal strength end up near one another, and BOTH are probably the two strongest in the game, and one of them just picked up something that gives them an edge, and they figure "If I attck Bob now, I might be able to eliminate him and the rest is smooth sailing."
Like I said, it was a rare thing in our games.
So all those nice components we found ourselves essentially playing what felt like a solo game with 5 players, and NOT a 5-player game.
I was disappointed. I had even color printed and mounted all of the extra character cards from their magazine, and purchased thru mail order all of the minis shown on those cards, just to have even more characters to choose from.
But in the end, after a bunch of games where the gameplay didn't improve, I put everything away, and it's been boxed up ever since. And the whole group felt the same way. No strategic thinking. Random draw of character. Random movement. Random card drawing. Almost no player interaction. It is one of the FEW GW products I've ever purchased that I would sell tomorrow. But since I never actively TRY to sell any of my games ...
Anyway, there you go, a dissenting opinion. My guess is that other groups must play the game far more cutthroat. However, as an interesting aside, one of my friends owned the prior version, and he liked the newer one better (not enough to want to play it again though). Said the older game would reach a point where it would stalemate/stagnate, and nobody could get strong enouigh to tackle the final beastie. So he liked how the newer version was tweaked and that never happened.
I've been keeping a close eye on Tannhauser since I first stumbled upon it's mention last summer. I was glad to hear that Fantasy Flight has picked up the distribution rights here in the US. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
Did you see on BGG? They used WWG terrain to turn the 2D board into 3D!!!
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