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in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 122: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 124: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() WorldWorksGames • View topic - Help building The Maiden
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Hi gang,
I'm wondering if someone out there can chime in and tell me if I should be optimistic about my Maiden build or not... I've just about finished "part 2" - building the hull. I've been more careful than I've ever been in getting things cut just right, but I'm afraid something has gone horribly wrong.
Two things seem to not fit right, and maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions. First, the front of the ship (sorry, I'm no naval guy - I'm going to use my landlubber terms)... The sides are nice and straight, but right where the curvy front meets the edges, the front bows out a bit. I was imagining that if I took the foamcore piece of the next level, it should sit flat in there nicely, but it doesn't fit well AT ALL.
Then at the back of the ship, the same is true of the foamcore for the 2nd level. I expected it to fit nice and flat in there, but it doesn't.
I can post pics if it'd help, but I was hoping someone who has built the Maiden could chime in and let me know if I'm just jumping ahead, and I should keep on building. I'm afraid that I'll be putting in another couple of days of work only to find that nothing fits together well.
Honestly, I think I have an idea of what you are talking about, but pics would help immensely.
I personally built my Maiden in 25-30 hours of work (including hand-cutting, glue time, etc.). Mine was black and white though, that might have been a little more forgiving the edging/precision department.
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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Here's a shot of the front of the ship:
See how it's bulging outward? I'd imagine it shouldn't do that. But I swear I had all those little triangles aligned with their glue spots... Gaa. It's totally depressing me.
I can take some other shots with the next layer of foamcore on top, if it'd be at all illustrative.
Poor Maiden - hasn't even made it off the dry docks.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Thanks, guys. That's a huge relief to hear. I really really want this Maiden model to look nice when I'm finished... I guess I'm feeling a bit anxious about something going wrong!
Well, four more days of vacation - let's see how much I can get done!
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I guess I forgot to post pictures - I've been trying to be good about blogging with pictures while doing builds... I'm a bit of a young old-dog who is still trying to get used to these new-fangled intertube tricks...
Here's a shot of where the ship is at, without the masts in place:
And just because I have them, and I know I love seeing other people's pictures:
I have the masts "mostly" done, but I didn't have any transparencies to print the ratlines on. I bit the bullet and ordered a pack online... My wife was very good natured about me blowing $35 on a box. Once they arrive, I hope to get this baby wrapped up and out of the drydock.
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That's looking like a great build. My Maiden build has got bogged down trying to compensate for the inaccuracy of my printer (You think your bulges are a problem!)
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WorldWorks Developer Joined: 05-27-2002, 05:55 AM Posts: 10213 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Looking great!
Though I gotta say, this project is making me very sad. After owning my Maiden for nearly 6 years, I lost it to GenCon last year from a hasty repack after tearing down the booth...whimper.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Youch! That's rough. Losing a TLX tileset is a pain, but still you can recover bit by bit... The Maiden... Youch.
Well, you know, just having the Maiden around is kinda lonely anyway. Don't I recall some partially-baked second ship in the works? It'd be pretty neat to have a second model around! With robocutter support!
You are definitely coming along nicely with the build. I wish I had time to build another. My black and white build is great, but it would be nice to have a color version to go with it (although, I am not really sure where I would store a second one...)
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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Next question! Lower ratlines!
Now that I've printed out my transparencies, I'm trying to understand how they get attached. The upper ratlines seem to glue on completely, but the lower ratlines are designed to not attach to the ship at the bottom so the masts can be removed. Great! But, the instructions say that the bottom of the ratlines "simply hook onto the bottoms of our ledges."
I don't get how.
The ratlines have a 1/4" lip on the bottom. Is that just supposed to bend over the edge of the ledge? Or, should I cut a slot in the ledge for that lip to fit into?
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Mine just bend over the edges of the ledges. At least for me, The tension between the bend at the bottom and the glue at the top keeps them in place with no problems.
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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Progress was made again. I don't know why I was so hesitant to building the masts, but I got some assembly done:
I was able to get the anchors cut out and edged, and I've started building the yards. It's coming together!!!
One thing I'm hoping will just work itself out - the bottom platform thingies on the masts are bowing upwards a bit due to the ratlines. So far, all these little things have not become an issue, so I'm gonna keep a positive attitude from here on out, and just keep plugging away!
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Man, do I wish there were better pictures in the instructions! I sure hope (a) I'm not overstaying my welcome with all the questions, and (b) if someone undertakes the Maiden, they find some of these answers helpful. I really appreciate the help thus far!
So, I was hoping to finish up the masts tonight, and I think I just got my butt kicked by these ratline transparencies. Certainly, it's frustrated me enough that I don't want to do any more work tonight for fear of really messing something up. Here are some shots of what's driving me nuts:
So, those transparencies are supposed to hook under that ledge, eh? Well, my ratlines are *not* going to hook on. They're being pushed out by the sterncastle wall. I thought "oh - ledge extensions!" but the extensions look to add an extra 3/16" to the ledge - not nearly enough to compensate for what I'm seeing.
Here are some shots at the top of the lower ratlines:
I don't know if I'm gluing these in correctly. They tend to bend inward at the top. I tried to glean some insight from the instructions or the promo shots, and I think I saw them kind of bending away from the masts at the top, not inward.
Any thoughts on what I should do? The ratline ledges at the front of the ship have a HUGE extension piece. I suppose I could see if I could cut larger extensions for the other ledges using similar pieces. It looks like if I'm to get any tension out of these things, or even just to clear the sterncastle wall, I need to extend the ledge about 1/2", which is huge compared to those little ledge extensions in the PDFs.
Actually, thanks for doing this. I've had the maiden for a while, and printed a bunch of it when a friend said, "I'm starting a campaign set on a big boat" I was ready to go, but he hasn't moved forward. When I get to it, this will be invaluable.
WorldWorks Developer Joined: 05-27-2002, 05:55 AM Posts: 10213 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
I'm wondering if you've got some oddball scaling issues going on with some of your prints. I didn't get that level of bending happening on my ratlines.
The extensions really do work though, just get them on there and give them a shot. If they are grossly off then we'd definitely have to consider some kind of printing issue.
P.S.
Sorry about the instructions, it was 2004 and I was still learning my craft
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