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in file /includes/functions_reimg.php on line 126: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() WorldWorksGames • View topic - New printer in 2015
My Canon Pixma iP4830 is giving up the ghost. I can't get the photo black tank from my continuous ink system to seat properly any more, and it won't print. So I'm looking for a new printer.
What's the best practice these days? (My old printer is five-ish years old.) Is a CIS inkjet still the way to go, or is a color laser economical enough for heavy use? And what printers of the current and immediately previous generation have the right aspect ratio to print squares correctly?
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 09-30-2006, 12:34 AM Posts: 3934 Location: New Zealand
I found a color laser excellent for heavy use, and economical overall, the recent lower cost models don't print accurately. These days I use an HP8600, which has per page cost similar to a laser, even if the prints are a bit duller than I'm used to.
Overall, the best trade-off seems to be an inkjet with a CIS system, but you'll need to get the advice of those who are using them (unfortunately they're not available locally in NZ and I've not been prepared to try importing one from the other side of the world).
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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
My CIS, over time... sometimes it is kicking butt, and sometimes it is kicking MY butt. I've replaced my print head once (I had a spare...) and I've made some crazy messes with the ink. Sometimes I've questioned its value. If I had to do it all over again, I'd start with cheap ink carts on Amazon first, and if that didn't work well, I'd have tried the CIS. It's not a perfect solution by any stretch.
I have a CIS for my inkjet. Sometimes it's great. Sometimes it's frustrating. The colors do not match HPs inks perfectly, though, so I don't use it for my models. I've also tried a few brands of cheaper replacement cartridges online and I had other inconsistencies with the colors.
So, I use an HP Color Laserjet 451dn for my models and am really happy with it. Sometimes the colors are a little off from what I want on a build, so I switch off the HP EasyColor and select Vivid (sRGB) as the Color Theme.
My biggest recommendation is to take some cardstock and go to the local electronics/department stores and feed some sheets into it. Take a page or two from a model set, put it onto a USB thumb drive, and plug that thing into each printer and try printing out a page right there in the store to test it out. Even play with the different print settings on the machine. I swear that I went through at least 40 pages of cardstock at all the local stores just testing out all the printers before I settled on the one I've got.
All HPs seem to, nowadays, be about 1/5 of 1mm off in 1 direction on the page. My inkjet and that color laserjet are both that way. It doesn't seem to make a difference in a build at all, but if you measure it, you can see it's consistently like that.
It's hard to say about the running costs thus far. I've had mine for about a year to a year and a half now. I've bought replacement toner cartridges for all the colors, but only because their system is set to tell you to replace the original ones WAAAY too early. It doesn't actually have a way to tell how much toner is left in them. It just counts the usage and estimates how much should be left. And they apparently intentionally set it to really low for the ones that come with the printer. Every time that I see something odd with a page, I swap in the new ones, but that doesn't change anything. So, they seem to last a pretty long time. I finally got sick of not knowing and second guessing it all the time and put in the new cartridges and left it at that. The cartridges aren't cheap, of course, just like any laser toner, but I seem to be getting a lot out of them. The only one that shows any reduction in capacity is the Yellow, and that's probably because I did my build of The Maiden with it and I've been focused on doing Pharaoh's Descent for a while now.
Oh, and I should mention that the colors usually come out a little bit darker than I'd expect sometimes. And sometimes the colors are a little bit lighter than I'd expect. In those cases, I play with the options in the Print settings and disable the HP EasyColor option and try the built-in color modes. For Pharaoh's Descent, for example, I've been using the Vivid (sRGB) setting exclusively. I don't know if that's using the toner quicker or not when I do that.
I'm shopping for a new printer and the new candidate is an expensive one, but one I hope will last >5-7 years. The Brother MFC9130CW is the queen at the moment, price and all (scanner/copier is critical for day-to-day work).
If I do want to print papercraft material, will this handle heavier stock? I've forgotten what laser printers with all those bends and rollers will handle.
I'm not sure about that model, but I strongly suggest you find a store that has a demo model of it and try running cardstock through it before you buy it, if possible. The last time that I bought a Brother multi-function laser for cardstock terrain, (4+ years ago now) it ran about 4 sheets through just fine and then jammed up and stopped printing completely.
I used the feed tray. Once it stopped printing, nothing I did could get it working again, including the bypass. The online specifications for the printer even said it could handle 200gsm paper.
Not saying Brother printers are bad for cardstock or anything. In fact, it's been one of the most popular brands of lasers for folks on these forums in years past. I'm just saying find a way to test it out first. Or at least, make sure you have the option of returning it if you get it and find out it won't work for you.
Thank you. So one more question. On Amazon I'm seeing several variations of the 8600 shipping via Amazon Prime and then the 8610, 8620, and 8630 not shipping via prime. What's the difference between the former and the latter three? Just a newer edition?
Can anyone comment on models which do or don't print squares actually square? When I bought my Canon, it was after vetting it against a blacklist of models which printed squares that weren't quite square.
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