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COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
I've been mulling over ideas for modular dungeons lately, specifically ones that can be easily collapsed for storage and transport. The idea I came up with is a bit time consuming but I think I can speed it up with a few hardare purchases. Basically I'm mounting on 1/16" thick chipboard, the bookstore at the local college has big sheets of it quite cheaply and it's sturdy and think enough to work well for this project.
The base floor has an overlay I add in photoshop to show where to cut out the notches, the corners of the grid get + shaped cutouts 1/2" long and 1/16" thick. The walls get 1/16" tabs added to the bottom aligned to slot into the floors. I decided the walls should have 1/32" trimmed off each side so that 4 walls can intersect at a corner without running into each other.
To get the walls shaped right each one actually has 2 pieces, the front side has the artwork trimmed to the final shape with a boxed outline, the back side is the same size as the boxed outline but is continous art over the whole area, this helps make any slight misalignments disappear when the wall is cut out. I glue down the front side, cut to the outline of the box, and then glue the backside on as straight as I can get it. Once it's dried I trim down to the final shape which takes 3 simple cuts for the bottom of the tabs and the sides and then I can cut the sides of the tabs quickly freehand and then trim out the tab cutaways, after the first one it goes relatively quickly. Sadly cutting the base out is much slower, I think the fastest way will be to pick up a 1/2" wide chisel so I can just line it up and tap it with a hammer to cut the long sides of the + shapes quickly and then just trim the 1/16" wide ends with a sharp exacto in order to punch out the filler. Here's some photos of what I have so far (note I haven't cut out all of the base notches yet)
Sorry some of the photos are blurry, my camera doesn't like taking closeup shots very well, you should still be able to make out the slots that haven't been cut out yet on the last photo.
Thats the tab and slot construction common in the dollhouse miniatures realm. It is very effective and I'm glad to see it being used in your layout. It works well using other material as well ... foamcore for example, but the chipboard is much more economical .... much! At 1/16" the weight should be just right.
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
Tutorial Time!
I've tossed some watermarks over the larger clearer shots just to be safe.
1 Here's the two sides of the wall right after being cut out of the printed sheet, the left side is the back, see how the artwork expands all the way out, it's upside down as you can see by the slightly glitchy artwork at the top where I mirrored some bricks to get extensions for tabs. don't worry, the odd looking bits get chopped out when making the tabs. On the right is the front side.
2 Start by trimming down the back, just cut to the edges of the artwork all the way around.
3 As you can see the trimmed back extends out into the areas we'll trim away on the front. This way we've got a bit of wiggle room when gluing it onto the chipboard.
4 Now we glue the front side down onto a piece of chipboard, I've got them cut out individually here but there's not reason you couldn't have a whole sheet of fronts to glue down and cut out at the same time.
5 Here's the front side glued down.
6 Next trim the glued down front to the inside of the black border. This will end up the same size as the cut out back piece, or as accurate as your printer can make it anyways.
7 Here's the front trimmed and ready for the back.
8 Both pieces ready to be glued together. Flip the front over and apply glue to the entire back side.
9 Glue the back piece on, make sure you've got the tops matched up and be careful to align the top and sides as closely as you can, especially the top edge. The sides and bottom will be trimmed so they're not quite as critical.
10 Trim the sides off, try to keep the razor as vertical as you can to get a nice straight edge.
11 Next trim the bottom, cutting below the tabs.
12 Sorry that these closeups didn't focus very well. The side of each tab is small enough you can make them with one quick freehand cut, I try to make sure the tip of the blade is vertical and angle the knife slightly into the tab so that they're slightly tapered, they slide into the slots easier this way.
13 More blurry shots but we're just cutting out the tabs, I generall cut each tab from t top down to about the center, and then reverse my blade and cut upwards from the bottom to get a nice cleanly cut out tab.
All that's left is edging and one of the most important steps I've found, grab a pair of pliers, I use my old leatherman tool and squeeze each tab a bit, this will compress it so they'll slide into the slots instead of catching the card stock on the opening and peeling it away and mushrooming the tabs making them useless.
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
Sadly no, it's a cheap older Sony and the screen's cracked so I can't get into the menus. And my good camera is a 35mm film one so it's not much use for quick stuff like this.
That is a great guide, thanks for posting. This is the kind of post I love to see. There's so much talent and creativity out here, great ideas to draw inspiration from. You gave me an idea for trying something similar with foamcore. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you come up with.
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
I've been working on this concept a bit more and came up with a way to make modular floor tiles, I've also cleaned up and sped up the way I generate the kitbashed images so I can generate new walls and floors quite quickly from existing texture work. Here's some sample images of what I've been working on. So far I have three floors from Castles and Keeps modified, as well as the 1" and 2" walls generated.
For the walls I have the sheet split into two halfs, the top half of the sheet is the fronts, these have been cropped to the final size complete with the tabs for cutting out, the bottom half is the backs, these are from the full width original complete with the sides that were folded for the clip-it system originally, this gives me a bit of wiggle room for imprecisely lined up sheets. I cut the sheet into two halfs via the black outlines, glue the front to chip board, trim it to the edges, and then glue the backs on before cutting out the individual walls. I made sure everything was lined up this time as well so I can use a straightedge and my rolling cutter to get a nice quick clean cut across several walls at once, this should speed up the construction a little. The rolling cutter also has the advtange of compressing the chipboard a little as it cuts which gives a slightly rounded edge that's very similiar to what you'd get with actual die-cut pieces, this should help the walls slot into the bases more easily.
The second improvement I made to make the pieces fit better without deforming is on the floor tiles. In addition to the tabs and notches so that tiles can be quickly fitted together into arbitrary floor layouts, when I was creating the slots I made the black cross shapes to the exact measurements I'm using (the slots are each 1/2" long by 1/16" wide and intersect precisely on grid corners) and then I expanded the selection outwards by 2 pixels in each direction for the white border, this will make the notches just a tiny bit wider than the tabs so they should still stand up firmly but hopefully the cardstock will no longer be peeled back from the chipboard as I push it into the slots. I may also try printing on full sheet labels instead of cardstock but I'm a bit more concerned about getting the front and back halves lined up precisely.
Anyways, without any more blabber, here's some images of the ready to print artwork for the walls and floors.
1" Walls
2" Walls
Checkerboard Floors
Decor Floors
and finally, the plain stone floors
And a few closeups.
You might not be able to tell here but when I was clipping the artwork I thought to use different sections so the tabs would match up to adjacent tiles. So for the checkerboard and decor pages there are 4 corner tiles, 2 edge tiles, and 6 center tiles. The corner tiles have regular stone floor art on 2 sides, the walls have it on 1 side, and the rest are all the same so they shouldn't have any visual oddities when snapped in to adjacent stone tiles. I'm not quite crazy enough to work up all the possible combinations though I may go back later and generate tiles that are say half stone, half checkerboard, or corner pieces that have just one square of stone or decor/checkerboard so that odd-sized areas can be made. That will require a bit more editing work in photoshop but shouldn't be too awfully difficult so I'll probably make one sheet of junction tiles later that will cover all the variations in C&K.
And last of all here's a 2" wall tile.
You can see how the bottom piece for the back is wider and the artwork continues down into the notch area. The top piece on the other hand has the 1/16" notches cut out to create the tabs, and also has had 1/32" trimmed from each edge making the 2" piece actually 1-15/16" wide. This prevents issues at corners and junctions as otherwise 2 walls could be trying to occupy the center of the crossed notches in the floor.
I'll be printing these pieces up tonight and assembling at least a few of them so I can post some completed terrain images with them. I may also take a swing at a curver corner piece later since I've figured out an easy way to create them while still allowing them to pack flat for storage.
Very cool! I really need to try this. My guess on a pack-flat curve: two pieces of board, one on each end of the wall, with only paper in the middle. Then when putting the wall down, you just curve along the paper and place!
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
Update time.
Got the curved walls designed and mocked up in 3d. I'll put these at the front of my build list this evening. First up is what the walls look like when finished.
That's the 2" Radius wall, here's the layed out art for the 2" radius, and 3" radius walls.
2"
and 3"
These will work up to at least a 4" radius and probably a 5" radius before they get too long to fit on a sheet. I might be able to get a 6" radius as well by having the end panels be part of the curve instead of an extension but I'm not sure if I'll have any need for a round room that large any time soon so I'll leave it alone for now.
Is there any interest in seeing all of these as a kitbash with construction directions?
That is some excellent work. So, looking at the early pictures, this chipboard stuff is like a really thick cardboard. Is that about right? Somewhere between MDF and cardboard anyway.
If nothing else, I'd love to see a set of templates that we could throw textures on. I could see using Chunky Dungeon textures for the same thing.
Man, that looks great. This is some excellent work. If you don't mind my asking, how much are you paying for your chipboard? And how does it compare to mattboard?
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
The chipboard I use is pretty cheap, 26" by 38" sheet for $2.19 in the art supplies section at the local college bookstore, it's the same type of material that's used to make game boxes, think Monopoly, FFG games, etc., I just use slightly thinner stock than most boxes, they probably use 1/8" thick material while the sheets I get are 1/16" thick or within a few hairs. It's just a stiff cardboard, pretty much the same as matteboard but it's not as aesthetically pleasing, actually it's like a ceral box but about twice as thick maybe. I'm actually generating templates for different sized walls as I create them so I may release the Photoshop files and some instructions when I'm done. The curved walls take quite a bit of work and calculating though so I may not include them.
COG Joined: 10-19-2006, 04:45 PM Posts: 136 Location: Salem, MA
Would the craft robo be able to cut material this thick though? The finished components are about 1.5mm or 1/16" thick. From what I've understood cardstock is about the limit of what the craft robo's can cut through. Something like that would be great for larger runs though, cutting out the tiles is a bit time consuming by hand, especially with all the fiddly bits they have now so they can lock together. That said I got 3 2" floor tiles cut out tonight for testing (I actually cut out a few more that got scrapped, my initial designs had been given some extra wiggle room and it turned out to be too much, tiles wouldn't lock together firmly and the slots were too loose, the walls wouldn't stand up), I also cut, glued, and edges one sheet of 2" walls and one sheet of 1" walls. I'll probably never need any more 1" walls eyond what fit on that single sheet. I also built one of the 2" radius corners and it works great, came out as well as I could have hoped for. Here's some quick snaps with my cell phone camera.
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