Hi, found a site selling WW stuff and it has an 'industrial' set that looks very tasty. Why is it not available here? Sorry if this is a stupid question.

D.x

It's an older, discontinued product.

cheers
Bull

More precisely, it's an older product that should be converted to TLX format.
I don't know the status of conversion though...

I have done some conversion work on the Mayhem Industrial set. I believe the official word was they wanted to redo the skins on it, as they were done at a lower resolution.

Thanks, I only asked in case it was not 'real'. Bought it now!

D.x

Yes, they've gone from 200dpi (and lower, in a couple of cases) to a standard 300dpi for all their TLX material. In some cases it's not too noticable, but it really does show up a lot in others. Plus, I think WWG is a lot more happy with their weathering and detailing effects now than when they started.

Though I admit I personally don't think they should have discontinued product until the replacements were ready... but I'm a strange one anyway.

I agree with you on this.

No, you're right Jaynz. We thought it was sort of a done deal with the fellow who was converting it. Its so close but its been "sooooo close" for quite a while now.

I'll see what I can do about activating the old product.

You could (and maybe should) mark the older sets as 'vintage' or some similar notation. Somewhere you could tell potential buyers that vintage denotes an older set, with lower resolution. And that many of the older sets will be eventually updated, but since that process is painstaking and can take a while, you're keeping the older sets available as a service to customers.

That way you reduce the chance that someone will get upset when the purchased set is replaced. And you keep older sets available for those of us who want them.

Steve

We essentially did that with "The Vault" section which chronicles sets from 2002 upward http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/in ... stem_id=13 . Some were pulled because they were upgraded/converted and some simply because they don't meet standards (old and ugly).

Yes this is so tongue-in-cheek, but still oh-so-true!

[Undelivered, plaintive letter found by the wayside:]

Dear Daddy Denny -
You have left us orphaned for far too long. Exiled and alone in a land far away, we only have each other for company. Only a few hardy adventurers ever find us. Some of those that did have promised to help bring us home - but we still longingly wait for the call.

We hear we have many new brothers and sisters. We hope you do not love them too much better than us. You loved us very much once. When can we come home and live in the new house?

[signed] The Older Ungers

How about the scorned ex-wife?

"You loved us once! But you found someone newer, more thrilling, more flexible, and with bigger DPI!"

@Jaynz - ROFL - you are awesome man!

@Jaynz and Greypilgrim. You both cracked me up!

What sets did you consider 'old and ugly'? Like I said, there's only a few of the 200dpi sets that don't look that good, but that's only compared to the 300dpi of the same style sitting right on top of it...

Those old sets look pretty good to me as well. There have been a couple of times I have been over there and looked at a couple of those sets and have been seriously tempted. One of the biggest reasons (maybe) was that you get no WWG support if you do buy from them. Then you end up doing as I have done and buy them twice, just for the support. Still, a set that will never again get support, I'm thinking about them.

Just because they've been dropped from the WWG store doesn't mean they've lost all support. The retired sets still get support from the community here on the WWG forums. Kitbashes are no longer available, but there's still people happy to help out with any questions/problems.

There was a time when I first started to think about the kit bashes. I owned Streets and I think Canals or Sewers. Those kit bashes were looking very nice to me and would add a bunch to the sets (duh! lol ).

So I was going to download the k/b's because I had read that owners of the sets, gained the kit bashes free. It was when I tried to download them I discovered a problem. The kit bash w/n download. I think it was you Zenguy who helped me realize it was because I downloaded those sets somewhere else.

What I then did was to buy Streets and the other set from WWG and got the kit bashes for free. Think I saved a few bucks, but I gained the customer service of WWG, which, in my opinion, was easily worth the extra cost. Yeah, I might go back to Paizo and get those sets WWG no longer wants to be associated with because they look much less professional, but they are still pretty sweet, in comparison to what else is out there.

To boil it down, don't go for the discount, it ain't worth it.

..............as for seeing if you can get this activated I have several people at my 'totally sad bedroom commando' club chomping my hand for a copy of mine. I told them not to buy a copy from where I got mine until I see if you reactivate it here.

On a positive note, I think the printouts are fantastic. A little zap into 'Paint', crash, band, wallop, print, a bit a weathering (all done in 10 minutes) and they look no different from the rest of my stuff!

D.x

The site is also still selling Skull Cove. It is an excellant pirate themed set and companion to the Maiden of the Seas and seems to have been discontinued here at World works.

let me see what I can do here. As there are several options for inside/outside combinations, this may take a while.

It's really a shame that these aren't available direct. Or, more importantly, haven't been converted to TLX and possibly expanded. Some of these, like VillageWorks and CaveWorks (at least it was doing well in the poll), are core sets that I suspect would see a lot of use and don't really have a good equivalent available.

Yeah, I still struggle with this myself. There have been times I think I should just get them. Then I look at my bills and have to man up.

On a side note, I have in the past built a cave set of my own many years ago out of cardboard and plaster. They work quite well still, but they really do not match the stuff that is already on my table.

well, I have almost the entire thing converted to TLX, but was told someone was officially working on a conversion to TLX, and that it was in submission. So I scrapped that project.

Are you saying that Cave Works or Village Works is underway? Either would be another must have, both would be so cool.

No, sorry. I meant Mayhem Industrial. tLX Caveworks does seem to have a lot of following here, though. I for one would scarf it up if it hit the market. A large portion of the latter part of my Pathfinder campaign will take place underground